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re: What current NFL players are first ballot hall of famers?

Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:16 pm to
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No. Not a first ballot guy atleast (ill leave this here but it really is just me hating on the guy cz i dont like him and its been awhile since hes been dominate so that was a knee jerk post. I will eat my crow now)

The only locks for First Ballots are Manning and Brady

I could see Gonzalas and some of those other guys being a victim of a loaded class




you are fricking stupid, as if we didnt already know that
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115633 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:18 pm to
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you are fricking stupid, as if we didnt already know that


Ive agreed with all the other guys calling me dumb in this thread so far... But you?

Pot meet Kettle.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466926 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:20 pm to
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if the playmaker wasnt a first ballot hofer, no way TO will be

TO is

#2 in receiving yards and TDs (behind the best NFL player of all time)

#4 in career TDs (behind rice, emmit, and LT)


Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31842 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:20 pm to
First Ballot guys:
Manning
Brady
LT
Tony G
Ray Lewis
Ed Reed

HOFers, but not first ballot:
Big Ben
Brees
Rodgers
TO
AP
Jeff Saturday (there are probably several olineman but its difficult to think of them off the top of my head)
Troy P
Demarcus Ware

ETA: i am assuming that each players career ended today of course
This post was edited on 10/30/11 at 3:24 pm
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:22 pm to
Revis?
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31842 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

TO is

im not arguing his place in the HoF, just his inclusion on the first ballot. if a guy with 3 rings and nicknamed "the playmaker" cant get in, playing his whole career with the most high profile team in the nfl, you really believe a pariah like TO is gonna be?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466926 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:24 pm to
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if a guy with 3 rings

team stat

and irvin was a bitch and a lot of media types hated him...and he was a cokehead.

TO may have had some rough spots on teams, but he wasn't ever that bad with the media and had no drug issues
Posted by Carlton Banks
Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California
Member since Feb 2008
1578 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:27 pm to
Sebastian Janikowski.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31842 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:27 pm to
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team stat

definitely matters to the voters though

quote:

and irvin was a bitch and a lot of media types hated him.

and TO isnt?

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had no drug issues

i think voters/media treat drug problems as something to overcome where as being an asshat team mate is looked as purely negative.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466926 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:28 pm to
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and TO isnt?

to the media? frick no he isn't

the media loves them some TO

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i think voters/media treat drug problems as something to overcome where as being an asshat team mate is looked as purely negative.

irvin was both. he fricking stabbed a teammate once

and irvin continued his drug issues. the NFL looks down on continuous criminal behavior
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13593 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:28 pm to
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if a guy with 3 rings
Holy shite. We've taken the most asinine argument for QBs and are now applying it to a position that touches the ball 6-8 times a game? Unbelievable.
This post was edited on 10/30/11 at 3:29 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73964 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:30 pm to
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Rodgers


quote:

i am assuming that each players career ended today of course


lulz
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31842 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

the media loves them some TO

the media loves to talk about TO because he is a lightning rod and they think he produces ratings. this is not the same as football people thinking highly of him.

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irvin was both. he fricking stabbed a teammate once

so he was a shitty teammate to one dude. Aikman also testified on his behalf and specifically said he was a great teammate.

quote:

the NFL looks down on continuous criminal behavior

This commish does. The previous did not. Also, the NFL has little to do with who is inducted compared to the national media
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31842 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:33 pm to
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Jamohn

do you honestly think the media does not look at rings as part of the criteria?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466926 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:34 pm to
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the media loves to talk about TO because he is a lightning rod and they think he produces ratings. this is not the same as football people thinking highly of him.

it's both with TO

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so he was a shitty teammate to one dude.

and TO was pretty much only an a-hole to jeff garthia and mcnabb

quote:

This commish does. The previous did not. Also, the NFL has little to do with who is inducted compared to the national media

i was talking media. they dislike criminal behavior and punish those who have legit moral questions
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:35 pm to
Manning, Brady, Lewis, Reed, LDT

Give it a couple of years, and Joe Thomas is on this list.
Posted by Haydo
DTX
Member since Jul 2011
3005 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:35 pm to
demarcus ware
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31842 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:36 pm to
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and TO was pretty much only an a-hole to jeff garthia and mcnabb

TO has been cut from every team he has ever played for because he cannot get along with his QB.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466926 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:37 pm to
he was kind of a dick to garthia, but the eagles shite was 100% mcnabb being a dick
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31210 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:37 pm to
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jcole4lsu

You should probably quit while you are behind.
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