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re: What current NFL players are first ballot hall of famers?
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:16 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:16 pm to wildtigercat93
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No. Not a first ballot guy atleast (ill leave this here but it really is just me hating on the guy cz i dont like him and its been awhile since hes been dominate so that was a knee jerk post. I will eat my crow now)
The only locks for First Ballots are Manning and Brady
I could see Gonzalas and some of those other guys being a victim of a loaded class
you are fricking stupid, as if we didnt already know that
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:18 pm to Lester Earl
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you are fricking stupid, as if we didnt already know that
Ive agreed with all the other guys calling me dumb in this thread so far... But you?
Pot meet Kettle.
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:20 pm to jcole4lsu
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if the playmaker wasnt a first ballot hofer, no way TO will be
TO is
#2 in receiving yards and TDs (behind the best NFL player of all time)
#4 in career TDs (behind rice, emmit, and LT)
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:20 pm to Lester Earl
First Ballot guys:
Manning
Brady
LT
Tony G
Ray Lewis
Ed Reed
HOFers, but not first ballot:
Big Ben
Brees
Rodgers
TO
AP
Jeff Saturday (there are probably several olineman but its difficult to think of them off the top of my head)
Troy P
Demarcus Ware
ETA: i am assuming that each players career ended today of course
Manning
Brady
LT
Tony G
Ray Lewis
Ed Reed
HOFers, but not first ballot:
Big Ben
Brees
Rodgers
TO
AP
Jeff Saturday (there are probably several olineman but its difficult to think of them off the top of my head)
Troy P
Demarcus Ware
ETA: i am assuming that each players career ended today of course
This post was edited on 10/30/11 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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TO is
im not arguing his place in the HoF, just his inclusion on the first ballot. if a guy with 3 rings and nicknamed "the playmaker" cant get in, playing his whole career with the most high profile team in the nfl, you really believe a pariah like TO is gonna be?
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:24 pm to jcole4lsu
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if a guy with 3 rings
team stat
and irvin was a bitch and a lot of media types hated him...and he was a cokehead.
TO may have had some rough spots on teams, but he wasn't ever that bad with the media and had no drug issues
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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team stat
definitely matters to the voters though
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and irvin was a bitch and a lot of media types hated him.
and TO isnt?
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had no drug issues
i think voters/media treat drug problems as something to overcome where as being an asshat team mate is looked as purely negative.
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:28 pm to jcole4lsu
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and TO isnt?
to the media? frick no he isn't
the media loves them some TO
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i think voters/media treat drug problems as something to overcome where as being an asshat team mate is looked as purely negative.
irvin was both. he fricking stabbed a teammate once
and irvin continued his drug issues. the NFL looks down on continuous criminal behavior
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:28 pm to jcole4lsu
quote:Holy shite. We've taken the most asinine argument for QBs and are now applying it to a position that touches the ball 6-8 times a game? Unbelievable.
if a guy with 3 rings
This post was edited on 10/30/11 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:30 pm to jcole4lsu
quote:
Rodgers
quote:
i am assuming that each players career ended today of course
lulz
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the media loves them some TO
the media loves to talk about TO because he is a lightning rod and they think he produces ratings. this is not the same as football people thinking highly of him.
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irvin was both. he fricking stabbed a teammate once
so he was a shitty teammate to one dude. Aikman also testified on his behalf and specifically said he was a great teammate.
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the NFL looks down on continuous criminal behavior
This commish does. The previous did not. Also, the NFL has little to do with who is inducted compared to the national media
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:33 pm to Jamohn
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Jamohn
do you honestly think the media does not look at rings as part of the criteria?
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:34 pm to jcole4lsu
quote:
the media loves to talk about TO because he is a lightning rod and they think he produces ratings. this is not the same as football people thinking highly of him.
it's both with TO
quote:
so he was a shitty teammate to one dude.
and TO was pretty much only an a-hole to jeff garthia and mcnabb
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This commish does. The previous did not. Also, the NFL has little to do with who is inducted compared to the national media
i was talking media. they dislike criminal behavior and punish those who have legit moral questions
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:35 pm to beaver
Manning, Brady, Lewis, Reed, LDT
Give it a couple of years, and Joe Thomas is on this list.
Give it a couple of years, and Joe Thomas is on this list.
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and TO was pretty much only an a-hole to jeff garthia and mcnabb
TO has been cut from every team he has ever played for because he cannot get along with his QB.
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:37 pm to jcole4lsu
he was kind of a dick to garthia, but the eagles shite was 100% mcnabb being a dick
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:37 pm to jcole4lsu
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jcole4lsu
You should probably quit while you are behind.
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