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Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:01 pm to hendersonshands
Gonna put on my serious hat for a second:
The problem with the Rockets is that they're straight up analytical. In the regular season it works great because you can quantify tendencies and attack statistical weaknesses. The problem is that once you get to the playoffs, coaches coach way differently and teams look way different. Teams aren't going to go with out of the box defenses in the regular season very often (unless you're Nurse), but once the playoff starts, they'll start trapping the best player at half court.
The problem with the Rockets is that they're straight up analytical. In the regular season it works great because you can quantify tendencies and attack statistical weaknesses. The problem is that once you get to the playoffs, coaches coach way differently and teams look way different. Teams aren't going to go with out of the box defenses in the regular season very often (unless you're Nurse), but once the playoff starts, they'll start trapping the best player at half court.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:07 pm to hendersonshands
quote:I don't entirely disagree, and I'm going to beat the same drum, but if Harden is "normal" Harden, this series is tied 2-2 most likely.
Gonna put on my serious hat for a second:
The problem with the Rockets is that they're straight up analytical. In the regular season it works great because you can quantify tendencies and attack statistical weaknesses. The problem is that once you get to the playoffs, coaches coach way differently and teams look way different. Teams aren't going to go with out of the box defenses in the regular season very often (unless you're Nurse), but once the playoff starts, they'll start trapping the best player at half court.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:07 pm to Mr Perfect
stats mvp 2 fgs
tht 2 fgs
lol
tht 2 fgs
lol
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:10 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:An unusually inefficient 7-17 shooting performance from Lebron, while getting out scored by 15 from the free throw line, and actually outscored by Harden himself by a point, and still winning by 10, is a pretty good result.
Lebron basically load managed this game, the lakers decided to walk on every single upturned rake in the yard those last 5 minutes, James harden himself shot more fts than the entire laker team....and it was a double digit game for almost the entire final 30ish minutes
The big difference for Lebron thus far in the playoffs is he’s averaging less than 35 minutes per game, coming off back to back seasons with his lowest total minutes (injury last year) especially when you include no post season last year.
Even if minutes pick up (as expected) moving forward, he’s has an unusually small work load post-2018 finals, after 8 straight finals appearances averaging 3,644 minutes per season. He could potentially play 17 more games in the playoffs, and if averages 48 minutes per game, his per season minute average in LA would still he 953 minutes les than the previous 8 seasons, spread out over an extra 4-5 months combined, or 2-2.5 per season.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:12 pm to shel311
The problem is that in the regular season, they got 3 guys sitting on the perimeter at all times just waiting to catch in shoot. Lakers are just blitzing Harden and ignoring Westbrook outside of the paint. Those other dudes don't know what to do when they have to create.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:12 pm to buckeye_vol
you should write for a blog dude
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:13 pm to hendersonshands
And harden has no idea what to do when he has to play off the ball
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:16 pm to hendersonshands
quote:
The problem with the Rockets is that they're straight up analytical. In the regular season it works great because you can quantify tendencies and attack statistical weaknesses. The problem is that once you get to the playoffs, coaches coach way differently and teams look way different. Teams aren't going to go with out of the box defenses in the regular season very often (unless you're Nurse), but once the playoff starts, they'll start trapping the best player at half court.
Eh. I mean maybe the current rockets team but it’s not a team anyone thought could really contend. The problem is more that their #2 guy isnt someone you can count on in the playoffs.
But they were a bad outlier 3 point Shooting performance and/or a CP3 injury away from beating the best team we’ve ever seen assembled and then probably a championship. So I wouldn’t say their system is a complete failure
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:16 pm to hendersonshands
quote:But it’s hard to say it’s a function of being over-analytical when this is the same pattern that Mike D'Antoni teams have always had even before Phoenix.
The problem with the Rockets is that they're straight up analytical. In the regular season it works great because you can quantify tendencies and attack statistical weaknesses. The problem is that once you get to the playoffs, coaches coach way differently and teams look way different.
His teams have great regular seasons (Knicks aside, but great by their terrible standards) with high scoring offenses, but they often underachieve relative to that regular season.
It may just be the coach and his offensive style, not whether the overall system is based on heavy analytics or not. In fact, analytics should provide insight on how to adapt to differences in the playoffs.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:20 pm to buckeye_vol
only thing left to do is have playoffs rondo piss in rox luggage lol
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:22 pm to Tigerfan56
I wouldn't say it's a complete failure, and I think this iteration of the Rockets is the most analytics driven. They have completely abandoned size so they could open the lane for Harden/Westbrook to drive and finish or drive and kick. The difference was the last couple of years in the playoffs when Harden was trapped or double teamed, Chris Paul is one of the most reliable ball handlers of all time and he's a career 37% 3 point shooter so teams can't sag off of him. Westbrook is a career 30% 3 point shooter (and shot 25% this season). Lakers know they don't even need to guard Westbrook outside of him driving to the basket.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:29 pm to hendersonshands
daantoni gonna walk after this szn
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:32 pm to Mr Perfect
I like D'Antoni as a coach. Just not many adjustments he can make with this squad.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:35 pm to hendersonshands
yea he's okay by me but roster ain't it
btw rox shoot over 40% again from 3 and still lose. crazy stat
btw rox shoot over 40% again from 3 and still lose. crazy stat
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:43 pm to Tigerfan56
quote:Iggy was obviously not near as important as CP3, but him missing 4 games was not an insignificant loss, particularly defensively.
But they were a bad outlier 3 point Shooting performance and/or a CP3 injury away from beating the best team we’ve ever seen assembled and then probably a championship.
But looking at the series, even before CP3 missed the last 2 games (but Iggy misses 2), and despite having a 3-2 advantage, Houston was getting out scored by 5 points per game with home court advantage.
And obviously they got blown our by 29 in game 6 so CP3 wasn’t the difference there.
And while the chances would have been Hugh higher, I’m not sure they would have won game 7.
I mean they got ran off the court in the 2nd half (20 points) and unless his teammates magically shot better (even shot poorly from the line), or he took over scoring, offensively it would likely have been a lot of CP3 passing to a teammate who was going to miss.And frankly, CP3’s playoff history is filled with either injuries, and/or a disappointing finish for his team (it looks like 3-5 in game 7’s; and looks like 0-4 after first round).
And those disappointing finishes are often not because he played poorly, but it might reflect the fact that a point guard, even one is the greatest of all time, especially if he’s not a super high usage player, may just not have as much of an impact.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:53 pm to hendersonshands
quote:Which I think is a flaw that gets exploited in the playoffs, a analytics-heavy team or otherwise. He’s obviously a good coach, but I’m guessing there are at least a half a dozen current coaches who are clearly better (Pop, Stevens, Carlisle, Spo, Kerr, Nurse) and a couple who are arguably better but at least similar (Rivers, Vogel). And it appears Budenholzer is probably on the same level: a great regular season coach, but his teams underachieve in playoffs.
I like D'Antoni as a coach. Just not many adjustments he can make with this squad
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