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re: VIDEO: Tony Stewart hits opposing driver; driver has died according to reports

Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:12 am to
Posted by piggidyphish
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:12 am to
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If I go jump in front of a car on the interstate


is that how it happened?
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:13 am to
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Chad


All I'm saying is that anyone with half a brain would move if they saw a vehicle coming close to this direction. Ward was almost hit by the car before Stewart, without flinching, and then never moved an inch when Stewart hit him. All of this after the fact that he actually got out of his car and walked into the middle of a racetrack. It is impossible to tell from a cell phone video at that angle what exactly happened. Guilt must be prven beyond a reasonable doubt and all that crap. Will never know if Stewart did it on purpose or even tried to scare him. I think he was trying to scare him with 100% certainty in his mind that the kid would jump out the way, but what we all think is irrelevant.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 9:31 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:14 am to
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is that how it happened?



Basically.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:21 am to
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The other side doesn't think there is enough evidence to make that determination.


For the most part probably, but i still think there are people that think its ludicrous at the notion that Tony may have had some malicious intent. Facts are very light shades of grey in this case. I have a feeling he may get charged with some type of negligence and it got to trial.
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:25 am to
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If I go jump in front of a car on the interstate


is that how it happened?


Actually worse IMO
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:27 am to
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For the most part probably, but i still think there are people that think its ludicrous at the notion that Tony may have had some malicious intent.


No one is saying that from what I've seen. Just simply saying there isn't any proof that there was malicious intent, which there isn't.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:38 am to
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Just simply saying there isn't any proof that there was malicious intent


If you have a clear video that shows entire event, you poll all the professional drivers and ask them if there was intent of Tony Stewart to scare or intimidate Ward, i know where i'm putting my money on the majority answer.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:40 am to
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Show me a link dip shite where someone said there was No Way Ts could see him. Thanks


Look through pages 99-140 and see people saying Tony possibly didn't see him.

See people saying there was mud on his screen or how dark it was, etc, etc..

Better to shut your damn mouth, instead of opening it and showing us all you're an idiot.
Posted by jorconalx
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:41 am to
A lot of ifs there
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:42 am to
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If you have a clear video that shows entire event, you poll all the professional drivers and ask them if there was intent of Tony Stewart to scare or intimidate Ward, i know where i'm putting my money on the majority answer.



Well your hypothetical of what they may say isn't really proof, so...
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:44 am to
You don't see the difference between this
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Show me a link dip shite where someone said there was No Way Ts could see him.
and this
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people saying Tony possibly didn't see him.
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See people saying there was mud on his screen or how dark it was, etc, etc..
?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:45 am to
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Well your hypothetical of what they may say isn't really proof, so...


Intent in a lot of cases is a judgement call by a jury. Really tough to have absolutes of intent of a person's judgement inside their brain in a split moment. I'm comfortable with common sense pointing all in one direction and charging him with some sort of negligence (even though a murder case isn't far fetched)
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:46 am to
I just noticed this YStar person recently, and have yet to see a single post worth a shite.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:46 am to
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I'm comfortable with common sense pointing all in one direction and charging him with some sort of negligence (even though a murder case isn't far fetched)


GTFO. Murder? You should be banned again for being an idiot.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:47 am to
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I'm comfortable with common sense pointing all in one direction and charging him with some sort of negligence (even though a murder case isn't far fetched)
Jesus.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19564 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:47 am to
Go read the pages I said. People denied his ability to see. Period.

Now when racers come out and say they CLEARLY saw him and dodged him.

Where are those guys saying the racers didn't see him and couldn't dodge?

Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:48 am to
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Go read the pages I said.
Link the posts. I'm not going to effort for you.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:48 am to
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Murder?


yes, that's usually what someone gets charged with when their actions directly kill someone.

If i get into a bar fight and swing a bat at someone's head assuming that he would just duck, i hit him and he dies, i would be charged with murder bro.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:50 am to
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If i get into a bar fight and swing a bat at someone's head assuming that he would just duck, i hit him and he dies, i would be charged with murder bro.


This is a perfect parallel to a guy getting out of a race car during a race and walking all over the track. Like exactly the same situation.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:51 am to
I didn't even touch on the common sense part.
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