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re: Vanderbilt football is in open revolt over Sarah Fuller

Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:25 am to
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:25 am to
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The passion you have for Sarah Fuller, is the passion I have when people think Serena Williams could be top 100 in mens tennis

I was discussing this the other day with a buddy and we were debating how competitive she would be in mens college tennis. My thoughts were she would be probably competitive but wouldn't be one of the best players on her own team and that she would get smoked by pretty much every male professional player. Am I somewhat accurate? (I know you played college tennis, so I figured you'd have a good frame of reference to judge)
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:27 am
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:26 am to
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What was the deal with Mike Leach when he was at Texas Tech? Some student kicked a FG at halftime for some contest and Texas Tech had major kicking problems at that time so Leach brought him on and IIRC he was their starter the very next week.
he previously walked on at tarleton state or texas texh (the article is confusing to understand) so had been through the clearinghouse.

LINK
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:26 am to
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Im just correcting this idea that they could have picked up some random dude off the street with no prior clearinghouse record and inserted him into the lineup for that game.


Others have disagreed with you with personal experience to back it up, but I'm fine to move on .
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:29 am to
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Others have disagreed with you with personal experience to back it up, but I'm fine to move on
its my personal experience from having been through it and seeing others go through it that the clearing house takes ages. unless somethings changed recently or you have someone pulling some strings in the office they are not getting to your shite in less than a week.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:31 am to
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its my personal experience from having been through it and seeing others go through it that the clearing house takes ages. unless somethings changed recently or you have someone pulling some strings in the office they are not getting to your shite in less than a week.



And it's another poster's experience that it can be done in as little as 2 days

Again, weird hill to die on
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:32 am
Posted by WaterLink
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:32 am to
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Is there really that big of a gap?


Didn't someone outside the top 200 slam a bunch of beers and was a chainsmoker and then destroyed both the Williams sisters back to back? He came out and said he'd played men ranked in the 600s that were more challenging.


Just like Nate Robinson showed us this past weekend, bad things happen when you step out of your competitive lane. Yes there is a huge gap.

Katie Ledecky is the greatest female swimmer to ever live. She has the world record in 400m freestyle for women at 3:56:46, which would be good for 43/50 at these past Olympics alone, not even going into all time for men.

It may not be "fair" only in the sense that life and biology isn't always "fair" and no amount of playing make believe will ever change that.
Posted by WaterLink
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:33 am to
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he previously walked on at tarleton state or texas texh (the article is confusing to understand) so had been through the clearinghouse.


K gotcha, I didn't know if he had or not, was just something that popped into my head. Thanks for the quick link
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:35 am to
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What was the deal with Mike Leach when he was at Texas Tech? Some student kicked a FG at halftime for some contest and Texas Tech had major kicking problems at that time so Leach brought him on and IIRC he was their starter the very next week.


Not sure about Leach, but several years back Tennessee's starting kicker was hurt, and their backup pulled a hamstring during warmups. They, quite literally, pulled a kid off the couch at his fraternity house hours before the game to kick (Derrick Brodus). He ended up making a short FG and all his extra points in that game. He was a freshman at the time. He had kicked for two years in high school and was an all-state soccer player his junior and senior years of high school. He would end up staying on the team as a backup walk-on for three more years and actually was able to play from time to time. So to say Vandy couldn't find anyone better than Sarah Fuller (when several options were presented to them as evidenced already ITT) 6 days before their game last weekend is simply untrue.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:36 am
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:37 am to
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And it's another poster's experience that it can be done in as little as 2 days

Again, weird hill to die on
prides post?

Pride if you could describe that situation further I would appreciate it. Who do you mean by we and what was the situations surrounding the walk on? Im not doubting you I just want to know what the situation surrounding it was.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:38 am to
If I remember right, he was 3rd on the depth chart but just not at the game.
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:39 am to
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prides post?

Pride if you could describe that situation further I would appreciate it. Who do you mean by we and what was the situations surrounding the walk on? Im not doubting you I just want to know what the situation surrounding it was.


Is there a reason we need to just accept your story but pride needs to expand upon his? You say you're not dying on this hill, yet all you do is exactly that.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:39 am to
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prides post?

Pride if you could describe that situation further I would appreciate it. Who do you mean by we and what was the situations surrounding the walk on? Im not doubting you I just want to know what the situation surrounding it was.

Had a kid from laffy who wanted to walk on the team

Couldnt practice until he was cleared

Was in coaches office the previous Friday, at Practice the next Weds

So took a full 2 business days

Personally, I was cleared in the fall of 2005 in about 2 or 3 weeks from what I remember

So a high school kid with no rush took me 17 days give or take
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:41 am
Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:39 am to
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its my personal experience from having been through it and seeing others go through it that the clearing house takes ages. unless somethings changed recently or you have someone pulling some strings in the office they are not getting to your shite in less than a week.

You've seen college sophomores at a school like Vanderbilt have it take "ages" to get cleared? This isn't someone coming in from high school or transferring from a JUCO where credit hours may be an issue. We're talking about a full-time student at one of the best universities in the country. If he had clearinghouse issues that could take time to sort through, he wouldn't be a student at Vanderbilt. Any full-time student at Vandy not on academic probation, would have more credit hours and better grades than is required to be eligible to play. It may take 24 hours to have the bursars office send over their college transcript for verification. And in a situation like this, the NCAA would not take long to clear him.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:40 am
Posted by NOLALGD
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:41 am to
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I was discussing this the other day with a buddy and we were debating how competitive she would be in mens college tennis. My thoughts were she would be probably competitive but wouldn't be one of the best players on her own team and that she would get smoked by pretty much every male professional player. Am I somewhat accurate? (I know you played college tennis, so I figured you'd have a good frame of reference to judge)


Serena is a horrible example for this thread and dumb. Of course the top 300 men in the world would crush her. But in her prime she would be a competitive player on every college men's teams and would be the best player on most men's college teams outside of the top 25 or 50 teams. And in her prime she would absolutely crush most HS Boys players. This is because tennis is as much experience and skill as it is pure athletic ability. That is not the case in football.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:41 am to
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Is there a reason we need to just accept your story but pride needs to expand upon his? You say you're not dying on this hill, yet all you do is exactly that.
I competed in track/xc for 4 years and watched numerous teammates get held up by the eligibility center. many of which had nothing against their record.

ETA: I also coach collegiately (NAIA level) and have a few friends coaching in the NCAA that have to play the eligibility game with the NCAA the first couple weeks of every season.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:43 am
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:42 am to
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But in her prime she would be a competitive player on every college men's teams and would be the best player on most men's college teams outside of the top 25 or 50 teams. And in her prime she would absolutely crush most HS Boys players. This is because tennis is as much experience and skill as it is pure athletic ability.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:42 am to
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I competed in track/xc for 4 years and watched numerous teammates get held up by the eligibility center. many of which had nothing against their record.




So to confirm, you are going to die on this hill?
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:42 am to
I went through it. Took less than a week with no issue.
Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:44 am to
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Serena is a horrible example for this thread and dumb.

I don't think she's a horrible example. I think she's actually the perfect example because of her being arguably the best female tennis player ever. I asked pride because he played tennis for LSU and would probably have a better frame of reference than anyone on here.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:44 am to
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I competed in track/xc for 4 years and watched numerous teammates get held up by the eligibility center. many of which had nothing against their record.

ETA: I also coach collegiately (NAIA level) and have a few friends coaching in the NCAA that have to play the eligibility game with the NCAA the first couple weeks of every season.

Well yeh that can happen. Had a teammate held up for months

But that is not the norm at all
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