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re: Vanderbilt football is in open revolt over Sarah Fuller
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:25 am to lsupride87
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:25 am to lsupride87
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The passion you have for Sarah Fuller, is the passion I have when people think Serena Williams could be top 100 in mens tennis
I was discussing this the other day with a buddy and we were debating how competitive she would be in mens college tennis. My thoughts were she would be probably competitive but wouldn't be one of the best players on her own team and that she would get smoked by pretty much every male professional player. Am I somewhat accurate? (I know you played college tennis, so I figured you'd have a good frame of reference to judge)
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:27 am
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:26 am to WaterLink
quote:he previously walked on at tarleton state or texas texh (the article is confusing to understand) so had been through the clearinghouse.
What was the deal with Mike Leach when he was at Texas Tech? Some student kicked a FG at halftime for some contest and Texas Tech had major kicking problems at that time so Leach brought him on and IIRC he was their starter the very next week.
LINK
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:26 am to Pedro
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Im just correcting this idea that they could have picked up some random dude off the street with no prior clearinghouse record and inserted him into the lineup for that game.
Others have disagreed with you with personal experience to back it up, but I'm fine to move on
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:29 am to LNCHBOX
quote:its my personal experience from having been through it and seeing others go through it that the clearing house takes ages. unless somethings changed recently or you have someone pulling some strings in the office they are not getting to your shite in less than a week.
Others have disagreed with you with personal experience to back it up, but I'm fine to move on
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:31 am to Pedro
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its my personal experience from having been through it and seeing others go through it that the clearing house takes ages. unless somethings changed recently or you have someone pulling some strings in the office they are not getting to your shite in less than a week.
And it's another poster's experience that it can be done in as little as 2 days
Again, weird hill to die on
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:32 am
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:32 am to TheRouxGuru
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Is there really that big of a gap?
Didn't someone outside the top 200 slam a bunch of beers and was a chainsmoker and then destroyed both the Williams sisters back to back? He came out and said he'd played men ranked in the 600s that were more challenging.
Just like Nate Robinson showed us this past weekend, bad things happen when you step out of your competitive lane. Yes there is a huge gap.
Katie Ledecky is the greatest female swimmer to ever live. She has the world record in 400m freestyle for women at 3:56:46, which would be good for 43/50 at these past Olympics alone, not even going into all time for men.
It may not be "fair" only in the sense that life and biology isn't always "fair" and no amount of playing make believe will ever change that.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:33 am to Pedro
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he previously walked on at tarleton state or texas texh (the article is confusing to understand) so had been through the clearinghouse.
K gotcha, I didn't know if he had or not, was just something that popped into my head. Thanks for the quick link
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:35 am to WaterLink
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What was the deal with Mike Leach when he was at Texas Tech? Some student kicked a FG at halftime for some contest and Texas Tech had major kicking problems at that time so Leach brought him on and IIRC he was their starter the very next week.
Not sure about Leach, but several years back Tennessee's starting kicker was hurt, and their backup pulled a hamstring during warmups. They, quite literally, pulled a kid off the couch at his fraternity house hours before the game to kick (Derrick Brodus). He ended up making a short FG and all his extra points in that game. He was a freshman at the time. He had kicked for two years in high school and was an all-state soccer player his junior and senior years of high school. He would end up staying on the team as a backup walk-on for three more years and actually was able to play from time to time. So to say Vandy couldn't find anyone better than Sarah Fuller (when several options were presented to them as evidenced already ITT) 6 days before their game last weekend is simply untrue.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:36 am
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:37 am to LNCHBOX
quote:prides post?
And it's another poster's experience that it can be done in as little as 2 days
Again, weird hill to die on
Pride if you could describe that situation further I would appreciate it. Who do you mean by we and what was the situations surrounding the walk on? Im not doubting you I just want to know what the situation surrounding it was.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:38 am to lsufball19
If I remember right, he was 3rd on the depth chart but just not at the game.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:39 am to Pedro
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prides post?
Pride if you could describe that situation further I would appreciate it. Who do you mean by we and what was the situations surrounding the walk on? Im not doubting you I just want to know what the situation surrounding it was.
Is there a reason we need to just accept your story but pride needs to expand upon his? You say you're not dying on this hill, yet all you do is exactly that.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:39 am to Pedro
quote:Had a kid from laffy who wanted to walk on the team
prides post?
Pride if you could describe that situation further I would appreciate it. Who do you mean by we and what was the situations surrounding the walk on? Im not doubting you I just want to know what the situation surrounding it was.
Couldnt practice until he was cleared
Was in coaches office the previous Friday, at Practice the next Weds
So took a full 2 business days
Personally, I was cleared in the fall of 2005 in about 2 or 3 weeks from what I remember
So a high school kid with no rush took me 17 days give or take
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:41 am
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:39 am to Pedro
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its my personal experience from having been through it and seeing others go through it that the clearing house takes ages. unless somethings changed recently or you have someone pulling some strings in the office they are not getting to your shite in less than a week.
You've seen college sophomores at a school like Vanderbilt have it take "ages" to get cleared? This isn't someone coming in from high school or transferring from a JUCO where credit hours may be an issue. We're talking about a full-time student at one of the best universities in the country. If he had clearinghouse issues that could take time to sort through, he wouldn't be a student at Vanderbilt. Any full-time student at Vandy not on academic probation, would have more credit hours and better grades than is required to be eligible to play. It may take 24 hours to have the bursars office send over their college transcript for verification. And in a situation like this, the NCAA would not take long to clear him.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:40 am
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:41 am to lsufball19
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I was discussing this the other day with a buddy and we were debating how competitive she would be in mens college tennis. My thoughts were she would be probably competitive but wouldn't be one of the best players on her own team and that she would get smoked by pretty much every male professional player. Am I somewhat accurate? (I know you played college tennis, so I figured you'd have a good frame of reference to judge)
Serena is a horrible example for this thread and dumb. Of course the top 300 men in the world would crush her. But in her prime she would be a competitive player on every college men's teams and would be the best player on most men's college teams outside of the top 25 or 50 teams. And in her prime she would absolutely crush most HS Boys players. This is because tennis is as much experience and skill as it is pure athletic ability. That is not the case in football.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:41 am to LNCHBOX
quote:I competed in track/xc for 4 years and watched numerous teammates get held up by the eligibility center. many of which had nothing against their record.
Is there a reason we need to just accept your story but pride needs to expand upon his? You say you're not dying on this hill, yet all you do is exactly that.
ETA: I also coach collegiately (NAIA level) and have a few friends coaching in the NCAA that have to play the eligibility game with the NCAA the first couple weeks of every season.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:43 am
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:42 am to NOLALGD
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But in her prime she would be a competitive player on every college men's teams and would be the best player on most men's college teams outside of the top 25 or 50 teams. And in her prime she would absolutely crush most HS Boys players. This is because tennis is as much experience and skill as it is pure athletic ability.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:42 am to Pedro
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I competed in track/xc for 4 years and watched numerous teammates get held up by the eligibility center. many of which had nothing against their record.
So to confirm, you are going to die on this hill?
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:42 am to lsupride87
I went through it. Took less than a week with no issue.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:44 am to NOLALGD
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Serena is a horrible example for this thread and dumb.
I don't think she's a horrible example. I think she's actually the perfect example because of her being arguably the best female tennis player ever. I asked pride because he played tennis for LSU and would probably have a better frame of reference than anyone on here.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:44 am to Pedro
quote:Well yeh that can happen. Had a teammate held up for months
I competed in track/xc for 4 years and watched numerous teammates get held up by the eligibility center. many of which had nothing against their record.
ETA: I also coach collegiately (NAIA level) and have a few friends coaching in the NCAA that have to play the eligibility game with the NCAA the first couple weeks of every season.
But that is not the norm at all
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