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re: Vandebelt Catholic High hit with penalty in Andrew Robinson case.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:35 pm to FrankDrebin
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:35 pm to FrankDrebin
quote:because when week 10 is the start of your season, you need reps...
He keep motioning to the coaches to go for it on fourth down and long several times even though they were up by a good bit
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 7:25 pm to michael corleone
I suggest let’s start at the very beginning, a very good place to start…
2015
The Robison family looks for employment and in hind sight a place for their son to be the football star. The father is touted as an exceptional coach and teacher, to which he ended up being neither, perhaps VCHS didn’t check enough past history. Perhaps too VCHS did not realize at this time they had been scouted and shopped for the student athlete, hind sight again is 20/20. The student athlete receives the name “Golden Arm” and excels in every aspect, athletically, socially and I would assume scholastically at VCHS.
Spring 2018
The father is fired from VCHS for what we can imagine is just cause. Only VCHS administration and Mr. Robison know the truth, but we can all speculate there was valid reason. What everyone (including VCHS administration, Athletic Directors and Coaches) also knew is that Andrew Robison would not stay at the school his father was fired from and no one can blame him for that. So, to say that the VCHS coach did not expect Andrew to leave would be way off base. He would have no reason to be vindictive, as he knew this would be the result of his father’s firing. Did the coach cross the line? None of us know but the coach and Andrew, it is one word against another. To say the VCHS coach’s actions were sketchy, etcetera how do you know? Because the Robison family said so? The family who falsified documents? Want to talk about sketchy!
Late Spring 2018
Again, the dad “shopped” around looking for a place for his son to play. Some say, “stay put go to Terrebonne High and say hardship.” Very logical, except have you checked out Terrebonne’s stats? I would suspect there would not have been a place for him to have playing time. So dad needed to look elsewhere for Andrew to play.
A significant amount of commentary sure has hung the VCHS community & coach with only the word of the Robison’s. The same people that we do know falsified documents that in the end were the catalyst to all of this mess. Perhaps they were honest mistakes, we can only assume that is what the arbitrator that made the final decision thought. But none the less… that was wrong and not completely honest. Putting blame back on VCHS for the parent’s mistakes and lack of following correct protocol is inappropriate.
No one is perfect, we all should get that. But the mud-slinging that was initiated AFTER Andrew was ineligible to play seems erroneous. If it was so bad, why did he express such strong admiration for his experience at VCHS in late May after he was no longer a student there. IF it really was a toxic environment that he had left and he did not care to report it, he could have simply said thank you and walked gracefully away without applauding and praising. It just does not make since and neither does the ugly generic statements that are being made on this site regarding VCHS. I would bet that none of those making statements really know the heart and soul of the VCHS community. For that you should be ashamed.
Glad the kid got to play and apparently had a good game. No one wishes ill will on him, but parents we should all take note and play by the rules! They are there for a reason.
Signed,
"Holier Than Thow" (never railed on the kid!)
2015
The Robison family looks for employment and in hind sight a place for their son to be the football star. The father is touted as an exceptional coach and teacher, to which he ended up being neither, perhaps VCHS didn’t check enough past history. Perhaps too VCHS did not realize at this time they had been scouted and shopped for the student athlete, hind sight again is 20/20. The student athlete receives the name “Golden Arm” and excels in every aspect, athletically, socially and I would assume scholastically at VCHS.
Spring 2018
The father is fired from VCHS for what we can imagine is just cause. Only VCHS administration and Mr. Robison know the truth, but we can all speculate there was valid reason. What everyone (including VCHS administration, Athletic Directors and Coaches) also knew is that Andrew Robison would not stay at the school his father was fired from and no one can blame him for that. So, to say that the VCHS coach did not expect Andrew to leave would be way off base. He would have no reason to be vindictive, as he knew this would be the result of his father’s firing. Did the coach cross the line? None of us know but the coach and Andrew, it is one word against another. To say the VCHS coach’s actions were sketchy, etcetera how do you know? Because the Robison family said so? The family who falsified documents? Want to talk about sketchy!
Late Spring 2018
Again, the dad “shopped” around looking for a place for his son to play. Some say, “stay put go to Terrebonne High and say hardship.” Very logical, except have you checked out Terrebonne’s stats? I would suspect there would not have been a place for him to have playing time. So dad needed to look elsewhere for Andrew to play.
A significant amount of commentary sure has hung the VCHS community & coach with only the word of the Robison’s. The same people that we do know falsified documents that in the end were the catalyst to all of this mess. Perhaps they were honest mistakes, we can only assume that is what the arbitrator that made the final decision thought. But none the less… that was wrong and not completely honest. Putting blame back on VCHS for the parent’s mistakes and lack of following correct protocol is inappropriate.
No one is perfect, we all should get that. But the mud-slinging that was initiated AFTER Andrew was ineligible to play seems erroneous. If it was so bad, why did he express such strong admiration for his experience at VCHS in late May after he was no longer a student there. IF it really was a toxic environment that he had left and he did not care to report it, he could have simply said thank you and walked gracefully away without applauding and praising. It just does not make since and neither does the ugly generic statements that are being made on this site regarding VCHS. I would bet that none of those making statements really know the heart and soul of the VCHS community. For that you should be ashamed.
Glad the kid got to play and apparently had a good game. No one wishes ill will on him, but parents we should all take note and play by the rules! They are there for a reason.
Signed,
"Holier Than Thow" (never railed on the kid!)
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:51 pm to DAH
So,
Let’s say that my comment about the VCHS coach’s actions being sketchy is base on hearsay at best. Why would the LHSAA issue any penalty at all?
(Please note that I said that the Parents do seem very sketchy in there actions).
But this......
Doesn’t make since to me.
If they were shopping their kid as you say back in 2015 why go through all that trouble for Vandebilt. If you’re trying to ensure your kid plays for a good team they could have done as they tried to do here and move him to a nearby parish with better records of success.
If the father needed a job and the school needed a coach and VCHS only hired him for the kid would that not be recruiting?
I’m not trying to ruffle your feathers here but it appears to me that neither party is guiltless.
Let’s say that my comment about the VCHS coach’s actions being sketchy is base on hearsay at best. Why would the LHSAA issue any penalty at all?
(Please note that I said that the Parents do seem very sketchy in there actions).
But this......
quote:
2015 The Robison family looks for employment and in hind sight a place for their son to be the football star. The father is touted as an exceptional coach and teacher, to which he ended up being neither, perhaps VCHS didn’t check enough past history. Perhaps too VCHS did not realize at this time they had been scouted and shopped for the student athlete, hind sight again is 20/20. The student athlete receives the name “Golden Arm” and excels in every aspect, athletically, socially and I would assume scholastically at VCHS.
Doesn’t make since to me.
If they were shopping their kid as you say back in 2015 why go through all that trouble for Vandebilt. If you’re trying to ensure your kid plays for a good team they could have done as they tried to do here and move him to a nearby parish with better records of success.
If the father needed a job and the school needed a coach and VCHS only hired him for the kid would that not be recruiting?
I’m not trying to ruffle your feathers here but it appears to me that neither party is guiltless.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:25 pm to FrankDrebin
Your points are valid...
VCHS is a good school, not a football powerhouse but we did just produce a player in the NFL.
They were coming from a VERY small Christian school in Tennessee, perhaps VCHS met their needs (& a job) and looked large... just speculating.
To clarify, I said the family shopped for schools. I did not say VCHS shopped for the kid. There is a big difference and watching how the father was excessively scouting (before all of this drama) the kid all over the country (Facebook shows it all) it is beyond obvious he will do anything to get the kid exposure and a leg up. I get it, we parents want the best for our kids, but it is a bit overboard! That is why I "speculate" that the father found VCHS for a good fit for the kid, I don't think VCHS even knew that was happening.
VCHS is a good school, not a football powerhouse but we did just produce a player in the NFL.
They were coming from a VERY small Christian school in Tennessee, perhaps VCHS met their needs (& a job) and looked large... just speculating.
To clarify, I said the family shopped for schools. I did not say VCHS shopped for the kid. There is a big difference and watching how the father was excessively scouting (before all of this drama) the kid all over the country (Facebook shows it all) it is beyond obvious he will do anything to get the kid exposure and a leg up. I get it, we parents want the best for our kids, but it is a bit overboard! That is why I "speculate" that the father found VCHS for a good fit for the kid, I don't think VCHS even knew that was happening.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:47 pm to reo45
quote:
Ends this week for Mr Robison.
Walker about to dig their ditch.
Hahnville is gonna win, their defense is for real. Held HLB to -1 yard for the game... that was no fluke. They were just on the field too much in their losses, as long as Andrew can put some points up they will win.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:08 pm to 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
They can handle Thomas, Cook, and the mighty mouse?
I just don't see it.
I just don't see it.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:26 pm to DAH
It's a damn shame how all this went down. I'm not laying blame on either side because personally, I don't "know" all the facts. What I will say is I knew Atwell from his days at Nichols and always got along well with him. I thought he was a good dude. We cooked for the football team many, many times and all got along great. I just hope the stories I heard about how he treated this kid aren't true because they're ugly. Really ugly.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:11 pm to reo45
quote:
They can handle Thomas, Cook, and the mighty mouse?
I just don't see it.
The D line is really good... #95 is one of the top interior lineman in the state for 2020 (criminally underrated). I know Walker has some stud skill position players, I just don't know if the offensive line will hold up Hahnville's d line.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:20 am to DAH
quote:what other schools did they look at besides hahnville
Your points are valid...
VCHS is a good school, not a football powerhouse but we did just produce a player in the NFL.
They were coming from a VERY small Christian school in Tennessee, perhaps VCHS met their needs (& a job) and looked large... just speculating.
To clarify, I said the family shopped for schools. I did not say VCHS shopped for the kid. There is a big difference and watching how the father was excessively scouting (before all of this drama) the kid all over the country (Facebook shows it all) it is beyond obvious he will do anything to get the kid exposure and a leg up. I get it, we parents want the best for our kids, but it is a bit overboard! That is why I "speculate" that the father found VCHS for a good fit for the kid, I don't think VCHS even knew that was happening.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 11:34 am to DAH
quote:
ot a football powerhouse but we did just produce a player in the NFL.
Whom yall also recruited
Posted on 11/8/18 at 12:14 pm to 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
If that overrated Terrebone team could I would venture to say Walker can.
Yikes.
Yikes.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:40 pm to CHEDBALLZ
No idea where they looked...
I don’t know about recruiting regarding the NFL player. But what I do know is the kid graduated from high school and college and the VCHS community had a lot to do with that. He is an outstanding young man and without a doubt proud to be a Terrier.
I don’t know about recruiting regarding the NFL player. But what I do know is the kid graduated from high school and college and the VCHS community had a lot to do with that. He is an outstanding young man and without a doubt proud to be a Terrier.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 1:49 pm to DAH
quote:
VCHS community had a lot to do with that.
I'm sure they did it out of the goodness of their heart too.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:01 pm to DAH
quote:
Perhaps too VCHS did not realize at this time they had been scouted and shopped for the student athlete,
Yeaaaahhhh right, of all the schools in america they ended up at Vandy because the Robison's scouted them out and decided that's the place they needed to be and not because Vandy offered the dad a job to get the son (who had already made national headlines).
Look I've said I think the Robison's are full of shite on alot of what they accused, but Vandy should be the last school throwing stones over recruiting.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:04 pm to 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
quote:
The D line is really good... #95 is one of the top interior lineman in the state for 2020 (criminally underrated).
Friloux is the best defensive player in the district IMO.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:05 pm to reo45
quote:
If that overrated Terrebone team could I would venture to say Walker can.
The score 0-0 1min before halftime, a couple of fluke plays including a pick 6, and it was 13-0. Stayed that way until the 4th qtr, then a blocked punt, 2 interceptions (another pick 6), a punt return for a td, and the game got away from them none of that was on the defense... like I said, the defense is legit, if Andrew plays the way he did Friday Hahnville will win. By the way Hanville was up in the 2nd half on that same Destrehan team that exposed Terrebonne, just didn't have any QB play to seal the win.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:52 pm to 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
Good stuff.
How do you see a zachary matchup?
Zachary is filthy and their receiving corp is 100% now. Been resting a LOT of kids for playoff run. Brewerton is all about the playoffs.
I'll add it sounds like Robison will have to win it for Hahnville against a Walker team whwre their strength is in the secondary with Thomas, Lockhart, and Cook.
Will be tough without a semblance of a ground game.
Just seems like a bad matchup.
How do you see a zachary matchup?
Zachary is filthy and their receiving corp is 100% now. Been resting a LOT of kids for playoff run. Brewerton is all about the playoffs.
I'll add it sounds like Robison will have to win it for Hahnville against a Walker team whwre their strength is in the secondary with Thomas, Lockhart, and Cook.
Will be tough without a semblance of a ground game.
Just seems like a bad matchup.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:14 pm to reo45
quote:
How do you see a zachary matchup?
In truth, I don't know if either team can beat Zachary. I hear their running game isn't what is was last year, but I remember their receivers and defense gave Hahnville fits last year. From what I saw last week Andrew is capable of putting the ball where it needs to be, and Hahnville has some good receivers, the soph just couldn't get them the ball.
As far as Walker goes, their receivers are really good, if the o line can block #95 (which I haven't seen anyone do in the last 2 yrs) they will have an advantage with the receivers vs Hahnville's secondary. If they can't block him their in trouble.
I'm not just hyping this kid up check out his huddle, he is a game changer.
#95 Friloux
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:19 pm to 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
I didn't think Zachary had a running game last year with Sanders. They are a pass first team with the deep ball threat. They also have upgraded at receiver with Hilton the sophomore who has been offered already by Texas A&M, Alabama, and Florida.
We will see if Robison is ready.
We will see if Robison is ready.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 3:31 pm to reo45
Yeah, I remember last year they beat Hahnville with some explosive plays thru the air, if their receivers have gotten better then they will have an advantage, Hahnville's corners are very fast and scrappy, but short. Like I said earlier Hahnville rely heavily on their d line and linebackers. If you block them... game over.
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