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re: USC is "back"

Posted on 8/24/12 at 10:29 am to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 10:29 am to
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It should of been Oklahoma vs USC or Texas in 08. Florida had no business being in that game by far the weakest resume of the 4.


You are like Bizzaro SECtard, just anti SEC, which is not any better than the all SEC crowd. do you troll other SEC boards too?



Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19350 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 1:36 pm to
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You are like Bizzaro SECtard, just anti SEC, which is not any better than the all SEC crowd. do you troll other SEC boards too?


Make the argument for Florida over USC Oklahoma or Texas
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 3:29 pm to
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Make the argument for Florida over USC Oklahoma or Texas


USC beat the Big10 Co-Champs Ohio State (#5) 35-3.

During the regular season, only two teams...Stanford and Oregon State scored more than 10 points on USC.

They lost by 6 points at Corvallis in September when Rey Rey had a mental breakdown of a game and let that little scooter back rush all over him.

I've never seen a team so unable to recover in the polls - so for all you people who claim the voters love USC...they stomped everyone after September and couldn't climb back with one loss...like everyone else. It was like a Scarlett Letter or something.

While Florida lost by 1 point to Ole Miss and was able to climb back doing the same stopping USC did...only advantage was Florida got to play Alabama in the SEC Title game and that put them over the edge. USC had to settle for stomping Notre Dame and UCLA.

Texas - their schedule sucked. And to top it off, they beat Ohio State by 3 points in the Fiesta Bowl...that Ohio State team USC beat by 32 points. And Texas lost to Texas Tech.

Oklahoma lost by the most points of all the teams but I guess they had the "best opponent" loss to Texas. Then cruised in their Big 12 schedule but still giving up points and points.

I think in order of deserve and performance on the field and "eyeball test"...and not, after the fact ranking...this order of deserve and what we saw all the teams do.

1. Florida
2. USC
3. Oklahoma
4. Texas

There is no way OU or UT deserved to be that game over Florida or whatever your argument is.
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 3:59 pm to
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There is no way OU or UT deserved to be that game over Florida or whatever your argument is.


Agreed
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97695 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 4:04 pm to
USC will have 2 losses this year.

Utah and the Ducks
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 4:07 pm to
According to Bisonduck, Oregon will be fielding a vaunted stop unit this year.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97695 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

Bisonduck



guy is delusion
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:01 pm to
He's aight. He seems to be informed on UO depth charts, though.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

It should of been Oklahoma vs USC or Texas in 08. Florida had no business being in that game by far the weakest resume of the 4.

Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Make the argument for Florida over USC Oklahoma or Texas

Best sos out of the 4.

LINK
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:08 pm to
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I've never seen a team so unable to recover in the polls - so for all you people who claim the voters love USC...they stomped everyone after September and couldn't climb back with one loss...like everyone else. It was like a Scarlett Letter or something.

The Pac 10 was awful that year. USC had 1-11 Wash St and 0-12 UW had home.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19350 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

During the regular season, only two teams...Stanford and Oregon State scored more than 10 points on USC.

They lost by 6 points at Corvallis in September when Rey Rey had a mental breakdown of a game and let that little scooter back rush all over him.

I've never seen a team so unable to recover in the polls - so for all you people who claim the voters love USC...they stomped everyone after September and couldn't climb back with one loss...like everyone else. It was like a Scarlett Letter or something.

While Florida lost by 1 point to Ole Miss and was able to climb back doing the same stopping USC did...only advantage was Florida got to play Alabama in the SEC Title game and that put them over the edge. USC had to settle for stomping Notre Dame and UCLA.

Texas - their schedule sucked. And to top it off, they beat Ohio State by 3 points in the Fiesta Bowl...that Ohio State team USC beat by 32 points. And Texas lost to Texas Tech.

Oklahoma lost by the most points of all the teams but I guess they had the "best opponent" loss to Texas. Then cruised in their Big 12 schedule but still giving up points and points.


1. What happened in the bowl games is irrelevant

2. Oklahoma was far and away the most deserving they played far and away the best schedule of all the teams mentioned. They only lost to 11-1 Texas

2. Florida lost to Ole Miss at home which is the "worst loss" of all the teams mentioned.

3. Texas didn't have the strongest schedule but it wasn't much worse than Florida and the only loss was on the road to 11-1 Texas Tech and they had the "best win"

4. USC's schedule was similar to Florida except they had a "better loss".
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:59 pm to
Ole Miss finished in the top 15 and smacked up the team that beat Texas. The Longhorns also didn't win their conference.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 7:24 pm to
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The Pac 10 was awful that year. USC had 1-11 Wash St and 0-12 UW had home.


That's retroactive analysis and not really accurate. So two teams make the conference awful?

And...

USC 12-1
Oregon 10-3
Oregon State 9-4
California 9-4
Arizona 8-5
Two teams at 5-7
One at 4-8
One at 2-11 (Okie State, Baylor, Portland State)
One at 0-12 (BYU, Oklahoma, Notre Dame)

The kind of breakdown you'd expect from a round-robin format.

You really showed your true colors trying to hoodwink the board by dropping the two worst teams in the Pac 10 and claiming them as representatives of the entire conference.

Oh, and here's the SEC...for 2008.

13-1
12-2
10-3
9-4
8-5

7-6
7-6
7-6

5-7
5-7
5-7

4-8 (Southeastern Louisiana, Middle Tennessee, Louisiana Tech) - Yeah, I think UW could have won those too.

SEC records are deceiving with the usually gaggle of rent-a-wins...and even then, it's not even better than the Pac 10 that year.

Back on topic:

I am talking about at the time. This "every voter loves USC" is nonsense. USC was leading the nation in D and smoking their opponents after one early loss in September when they were #1 on the road by 6 points...the kind of loss you used to be able to get away and still climb back atop.

If we were using the Bama eyeball test of today, it would be USC/Oklahoma or USC/Florida.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 7:30 pm to
Rocket is putting words in my mouth. It should be better than 2010 when we gave up 18 a game. With our OOC, no Luck at stanford, ASU changing schemes, UW a downgrade on offense due to oline, etc., I would say we give up around 15 a game.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Zamoro10

Before the bowls:
OU 12-1
UF 12-1
USC 11-1
UT 11-1
12 > 11
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 8/24/12 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

With our OOC, no Luck at stanford, ASU changing schemes, UW a downgrade on offense due to oline, etc., I would say we give up around 15 a game.


Quality post.
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