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Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:09 am to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:09 am to
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MMA pays some lip service but they mostly just shrug and say, "This feels right..


It’s a fight, that feels more right than judging based on “significant strikes” or takedowns where one dude doesn’t even look phased. I’ve held for a longtime that if you try takedowns and can’t get them or get the takedown and can’t generate any offense from it, that should be judged against you. I fricking hate when a guy will win from just being in top position for a majority of the fight, yeah you have top position but if you can’t do anything with it, you’re losing that exchange, their defense outclasses your offense
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69668 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:38 am to
No you aren’t, if you’re in full mount and maintain the position you’re still winning, now if the bottom guy escapes mount whether it’s using a trap and roll or recovers gets to x guard, half guard etc, then yes that should count if the mount position gets nullified from a scoring point of view

Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47151 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:50 am to
Terrible gameplan from Belal. Trying to show he had canelo hands cost him his first title defense
This post was edited on 5/11/25 at 8:54 am
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:51 am to
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they are laying on each other, stand em up.

Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:52 am to
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It’s a fight, that feels more right than judging based on “significant strikes” or takedowns where one dude doesn’t even look phased. I’ve held for a longtime that if you try takedowns and can’t get them or get the takedown and can’t generate any offense from it, that should be judged against you. I fricking hate when a guy will win from just being in top position for a majority of the fight, yeah you have top position but if you can’t do anything with it, you’re losing that exchange, their defense outclasses your offense

Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69668 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 9:43 am to
Mingo is clueless. He needs to compete in a jiu jitsu or submission grappling at least once and get a feel for things
Posted by Big Fat Guy
Member since Nov 2020
1063 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 10:17 am to
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Terrible gameplan from Belal. Trying to show he had canelo hands cost him his first title defense
Exactly. 'Well at least Belal showed he can put on an exciting fight.' Yeah, and lose it. I'm sure if he was back again, he would love to have fought boring and retained his belt. Ironically by losing with his striking, he only reinforced the criticism that he can only win with his boring wrestling. Damned if he did, damned if he didn't, so he should have just played to his own strengths from the start instead of playing to JDM's strengths.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9116 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:20 pm to
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after hearing DC say that it is for sure 2-2


I won’t lie….while I love DC and Rogan sometimes they are absolutely shite as commentators.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9116 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:23 pm to
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What more could a guy ask for?


Uuuhhhh…. Not getting beat up because you finish in 17 seconds…..

…..you would think that a quick finish with little to no damage would be great in her eyes………
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9116 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:28 pm to
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cannot believe Dana is allowing it ....


You don’t think Dana….a businessman…..who literally went to Vince McMahon to learn how to grow his business wouldn’t have a guy who represents something that people hate who people would love to see get beat? Gee….I wonder what Conor would say about this, Chael also…..

The guy is also a ‘boring’ fighter so I’m sure people would LOVE to see him lose……
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9116 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:42 pm to
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He needs to compete in a jiu jitsu or submission grappling


Never competed but did train in it and man did I love it. Would absolutely love to start training again but between my body being broken and needing to take care of my dad that’s probably never going to be an option.

Actually, while I was training one of the guys was trying to convince me to compete in a tournament in Mississippi (this was many moons ago). He wanted me to cut a bunch of weight to compete in a lower weight division so I wouldn’t be competing with another guy in our class.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36391 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:47 pm to
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No you aren’t, if you’re in full mount and maintain the position you’re still winning


It’s MMA, not a ju jitsu tournament
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36282 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 1:42 pm to
Right position shouldn’t matter if you aren’t doing damage or threatening with sub attempts.

I prefer the total damage done/closest to ending the fight judging rather than point bullshite.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69668 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 1:46 pm to
You’re not this stupid are you
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69668 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 1:49 pm to
Yeah I had a neck injury I’m still trying to recover from. I was hoping to do no gi pan ams this year at purple belt but I don’t think it’s gonna happen.

Hopefully I can start training again soon, I’d be a lot closer to my brown belt if it weren’t for that
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69668 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 1:51 pm to
You gotta maintain position and pressure prior to submission or finishing with strikes. Simple concept but easier said than done. If I’m maintain mount or rear mount/back control and my opponent has done nothing then I won
Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
6225 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 1:54 pm to
I dont think Valentina is that kind of woman as long as you cuddled her after.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36282 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 2:04 pm to
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You gotta maintain position and pressure prior to submission or finishing with strikes. Simple concept but easier said than done. If I’m maintain mount or rear mount/back control and my opponent has done nothing then I won

If you have position and don’t do anything with it, then you’re neutral IMO. Going for subs or strikes at least opens you up for defense counters. Getting in an advantageous position and then doing nothing with it shouldn’t be rewarded, but I also think there should be more 10-10 rounds.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36391 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 2:32 pm to
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I also think there should be more 10-10 rounds.


That’s kind of the point. There should be more “negative” judging for lack of a better term. If you shoot a million takedowns and can’t get it, that should be held against you, not be neutral. Or if you get a takedown and can’t advance the position, land a strike, at least try a submission, you aren’t winning, you’re losing. In MMA, again it’s not ju jitsu

It’s kind of hard to explain in words but it’s clear when you see it. guys shouldn’t be winning rounds or fights based on doing nothing, imo
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69668 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 2:37 pm to
It’s hard for you because you never done it
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