re: UFC 214 - Jon Jones vs. Daniel Cormier for the LHW Championship - (7/29)

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Please keep this thread on topic: UFC 214

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You brought the mighty Ragin Cajuns into the discussion...

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this is one of the reasons I quit posting here years ago.

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Why? Because you couldn't handle a dumb joke?

I thought that supplement he tested positive for, was used as an estrogen block or used in pct

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What % DC retires no matter if he win/lose?

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I'd say zero percent if he wins. He wants 2 more title defenses for the paychecks.

If he loses he may strongly consider it and just try and build his fight school up.

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I wish he would have embraced it from the beginning. Brash, cocky, arrogant. That's fine. Fight fans can get behind that.

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Seems like fans are still behind him, bc DC still gets boooed.

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bc DC still gets boooed.

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Because the MMA has an extremely high douche bag "Just Bleed" contingent. They hate wrestlers the moment they step in the Octagon because they want to see kickboxing essentially.

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because they want to see kickboxing essentially

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Which is why it's kind of surprising that kickboxing isn't more popular.

ETA: And a bunch of live events are free on Fight Pass.

Jon Jones eyepoke compilation/interview LINK

And a reminder why DC hates Jon Jones

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When DC was in Junior High, his friend from school was killed in a car crash.

A year after that, his cousin was also killed in a car crash.

In 2003, Cormier's 3 month old daughter was killed in a car crash. He did not have another child until nearly 10 years later, in 2011.

Keeping this in mind, in April 2015 Jon Jones was the instigator in a car crash where he drove into the car of a pregnant woman, and then fled the scene on foot -- twice, because he returned to the car to grab a bag of cash. Jones himself admitted he did not check the occupants of other cars. Investigators found pipes containing marijuana inside the car. This incident happened only 4 months after Jon Jones defeated Cormier via decision, providing Daniel his only loss.

(Edit) The above was actually Jon's second car crash. He had a prior DUI car crash in 2012

In a promotional event for UFC 178, Jones harshly pressed his forward against Cormier's head and ignited a reciprocated shove. During the NSAC, Jones claimed that DC's actions caused him to lose his endorsement deal with Nike -- then later admitted that Nike did not drop him due to the DC brawl, but rather did not want to move forward in MMA. So Jones tried to place blame on Cormier for Jones having lost a 6-figure endorsement.

Days before the rematch at UFC 200, Jon Jones tested positive for banned substances; not only was his intent to cheat, but because of his failed attempt (edit: failed attempt to get away with it) he got caught and the fight was cancelled.

With all the trash talk sent back and forth, Daniel Cormier has often brought up Jon's cocaine use, his car crash, his illegal fight tactics (eye pokes), among other controversies and character judgments. Jones has been mostly unphased by these claims or avoided accepting blame. The only trash talk that has seemingly affected Jones was insulting his "chicken legs" and "bad genetics". So Cormier is also dealing with Jones in the form of a man with very little empathy for his severe actions; one of which include the same incident (car crash) that has caused him to lose a friend, and an infant child.

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LINK   - When DC was in Junior High, his friend from school was killed in a car crash. - A year after that, his cousin was also killed in a car crash. - In 2003, Cormier's 3 month old daughter was killed in a car crash. He did not have another child until nearly 10 years later, in 2011. - Keeping this in mind, in April 2015 Jon Jones was the instigator in a car crash where he drove into the car of a pregnant woman, and then fled the scene on foot -- twice, because he returned to the car to grab a bag of cash. Jones himself admitted he did not check the occupants of other cars. Investigators found pipes containing marijuana inside the car. This incident happened only 4 months after Jon Jones defeated Cormier via decision, providing Daniel his only loss. - (Edit) The above was actually Jon's second car crash. He had a prior [DUI car crash in 2012](LINK   - In a promotional event for UFC 178, Jones harshly pressed his forward against Cormier's head and ignited a reciprocated shove. During the NSAC, Jones claimed that DC's actions caused him to lose his endorsement deal with Nike -- then later admitted that Nike did not drop him *due to the DC brawl*, but rather did not want to move forward in MMA. So Jones tried to place blame on Cormier for Jones having lost a 6-figure endorsement. - Days before the rematch at UFC 200, Jon Jones tested positive for banned substances; not only was his intent to cheat, but because of his failed attempt (edit: failed attempt to get away with it) he got caught and the fight was cancelled. - With all the trash talk sent back and forth, Daniel Cormier has often brought up Jon's cocaine use, his car crash, his illegal fight tactics (eye pokes), among other controversies and character judgments. Jones has been mostly unphased by these claims or avoided accepting blame. The only trash talk that has seemingly affected Jones was insulting his "chicken legs" and "bad genetics". So Cormier is also dealing with Jones in the form of a man with very little empathy for his severe actions; one of which include the same incident (car crash) that has caused him to lose a friend, and an infant child. - (Edit) As someone reminded me, DC has disliked Jones long before he had a personal rivalry. In 2011 Jones approached Cormier and said: "I bet I could take you down". Hard to infer the tone without being there, but DC definitely took it as an act of disrespect, and Jones' future actions would suggest that's the likely case.   [If you needed any more reason to cheer for Cormier,](https://www.mmafighting.com/2011/11/23/the-indestructible-man) ("The Indestructible Man" *by Ben Fowlkes*) he's overcome many other tragedies and adversities unrelated to Jones or the actions of Jones. When Cormier was 7 years old celebrating Thanksgiving, his father was shot and killed by his father's (second) wife's father; i.e. Joseph Cormier's father-in-law. The murderer walked free. At the 2004 Olympics, months after his daughter's death, Cormier finished in 4th place: respectable, but below expectations. In the 2008 Olympics, Cormier made weight (weighing in at 211lb) but then started coughing, vomiting, cramping, and falling over his knees. He spent the night in hospital attached to IV's and missed an Olympic event he "had a very good chance" to win Gold. According to Cormier, upon return to his wrestling team, he was shunned and shown almost no support, and Cormier says he was blamed by his team for ruining their Gold medal chances. https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/6puj80/a_reminder_of_why_daniel_cormier_justifiably/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer">LINK

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Well Jones is a wrestler....

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And an exciting striker. At least he used to be.

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StraightCashHomey21

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Why did you ditch the not steroids topic?