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re: UFC 158 Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz

Posted on 3/17/13 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by slapahoe
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 2:32 pm to
why doesnt anyone try and throw knees at gsp when he shoots for the takedowns? your going down regardless majority of the time, so you might as well try and catch his face with your knee and hope for a tko.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 2:45 pm to
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I just wish there was some repercussions for stalling.


Define "stalling."
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 4:32 pm to
I would define stalling as not attempting to engage or advance position.

Examples
Constantly clinching
Getting the takedown and being content sitting in guard and not attempting to pass or inflect damage.
Circling/running from a fighter and pawing out a jab
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 5:00 pm to
I would like to see a breakdown of the total number of minutes spent standing and total minutes spent on the ground in that fight. It had to be close to half the time

Diaz had plenty of chances on his feet to do something but he didn't. GSP beat him on the ground and beat him on his feet
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 5:04 pm to
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I would define stalling as not attempting to engage or advance position.

Examples
Constantly clinching
Getting the takedown and being content sitting in guard and not attempting to pass or inflect damage. Circling/running from a fighter and pawing out a jab


I thought there were already regulations in place for the referee to intercede regarding your first two examples.

As far as the third example... well... I guess the other fighter would bear some responsibility for allowing that to happen.

The worst thing I can imagine is for the UFC to remove elements that have served to make the sport unique--watering itself down until its a shell of itself like competitive judo.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 5:11 pm to
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yea but joe even said multiple times that gsp was looking at the clock when he would grab diaz after an exchange nick got the better part of


I'm not saying you Homey, but those that constantly blame GSP for the game's best takedown and wrestling, sound like folks that would cry over Nick Saban winning four of the last eight BCS titles when he was in college coaching..

'Wah-wah-wah, Nick, your Defenses with stonewalling DLs suffocate too much, allow no teams to get off LOS, can't get the opposing Os rolling, your dominant running games behind manhandling OLs are boring, you don't play an honest game, your BCSCGs are lame, you don't allow opponents to have a puncher's chance!'

I guess Mariano Rivera and the mid-1990s/early 00s Yankees the same, with their DBacks WS loss and few other Mariano collapses, serving as Rivera's Matt Serra & Matt Hughes title-time W-L exceptions..

Damn that Patty Roy, stonewalling to endless titles with Montreal and Colorado..

Red Auerbach and John Wooden, you pricks, just grinding teams down, win after boring win.
This post was edited on 3/17/13 at 8:12 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 6:45 pm to
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Hendricks is every bit the wrestler, but he has those lead hands to win the stand up.

Can't wait for gsp to have to fight a different fight.
Apparently you didn't see the Josh Koscheck fight. I'm amazed at how little so many people in this thread know.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 6:46 pm to
Here's what happened the last time GSP fought a Striker with outstanding wrestling.

Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 6:56 pm to
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Here's what happened the last time GSP fought a Striker with outstanding wrestling.



Exactly. GSP will beat Hendricks 50 - 45.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 6:57 pm to
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Exactly. GSP will beat Hendricks 50 - 45.
And people will still bitch about GSP not having any stand up.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 3/17/13 at 7:29 pm to
Did anyone catch Diaz talking about how he's never paid taxes? wtf is wrong with this dude?
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 7:29 pm to
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Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 7:29 pm to
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Here's what happened the last time GSP fought a Striker
Koscheck is a striker now??


quote:

I'm amazed at how little so many people in this thread know
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32813 posts
Posted on 3/17/13 at 7:31 pm to
Diaz & Dwight Howard have the same public speaking coach
Posted by dominustd
La.
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 7:33 pm to
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Koscheck is a striker now??


Well, he has KO power, his right hand.

Similar to Hendrick's left.

I'm assuming that's what he really meant imo.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 7:39 pm to
Be honest, who would rock this shirt??

Posted by dominustd
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 7:45 pm to
Uh, naw!
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 8:08 pm to
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wtf is wrong with this dude?
He really is messed up.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64759 posts
Posted on 3/17/13 at 8:12 pm to
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Koscheck is a striker now??
His knockout power was all they talked about, similar to Hendricks. He knocked out Matt Hughes. I'd consider him a wrestler first and a striker second.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 8:23 pm to
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Did anyone catch Diaz talking about how he's never paid taxes?


Wesley Snipes is down with this.
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