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re: Ufc 106: Tito Ortiz vs Forest Griffan

Posted on 11/17/09 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 11/17/09 at 2:38 pm to
The headliner was supposed to be Lesnar-Carwin I believe. Had to bump this one up from co-main event to main event and they added Koscheck-Rumble Johnson to the card. Pretty good addition on short notice if you ask me.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/19/09 at 2:46 pm to
Dana White twitter

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Karo Parisyan has fricked over the UFC, the fans and his opponent again!!! He will not be fighting saturday or ever again in the UFC!!
25 minutes ago from TwitterBerry


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Pulled out of the fight the day before weigh ins again with a laundry list of excuses!!! Let the press ask karo why! Let him explain.
13 minutes ago from TwitterBerry


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Dustin will be paid his full purse to show and win. Its not his fault.
2 minutes ago from TwitterBerry


there goes the fight of the night
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81448 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 3:18 pm to
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Karo “The Heat” Parisyan is out of UFC 106 after failing to acquire a license in Nevada, according to Parisyan, due to not having the money to pay his fine from previously being suspended after testing positive for a three different pain killers following his UFC 94 bout with Kim Dong-hyun.

“There’s a lot of problems going on. They won’t re-license me unless I (expletive) pay them,” Parisyan told MMAWeekly.com. “I had to pay the $32,000 fine in order to fight. I never paid because I never had the money. I don’t know if I’ll be able to come back.”

UFC president Dana White posted on his twitter account, “Karo Parisyan has (expletive) over the UFC, the fans and his opponent again! He will not be fighting Saturday or ever again in the UFC!”

“Everything is over bro. I’m just going to go home. Everything is fricked up. I’ve got to think about what I’m going to do for my career,” added 27-year old Parisyan. “I’ve got to think about what I want to do as far as fighting goes.”

This is the second time Parisyan has backed out of a UFC bout close to the event. He was scheduled to fight Yoshiyuki Yoshida at UFC 88, but pulled out for an alleged back injury right before the weigh-ins.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37594 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 3:19 pm to
Dana needs to cut Manvel and Darvinian from WEC for multiple reasons but an extra one is a shot at Karo.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37594 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 3:21 pm to
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27-year old Parisyan


That is an old 27 years.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81448 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 3:22 pm to
its crazy that people like Florian and Koscheck are much older than him. Diego is even older.
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4692 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 3:23 pm to
Am I crazy for thinking Rumble Johnson is a legit threat to GSP? Assuming, of course, that he beats Josh this weekend. Seems to have the size and speed to pull it off.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/19/09 at 3:35 pm to
Johnson has some serious weight to cut. I don't know if he can keep this up at 170 lbs. AJ vs JK should be a great fight.

Who cares if Tito or Forrest never fight for the belt again? It's fricking MMA. I watch 8-3 college football teams play all the time. Either you love the sport or not.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27130 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 3:35 pm to
He obviously knew about this issue ahead of time. What was he thinking?

To add to that, I'm sure his purse and sponsors would have covered the $32k. Just get a loan and pay it off after the fight.
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4692 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 3:41 pm to
Seems like someone posted that Johnson cuts from 225. Is this true?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81448 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12806 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 3:47 pm to
I've heard that before too. Suppossedly he tried to drop 20 pounds before weigh-in day of his last fight. Missed it by 5 pounds.

edit-thanks for the link Max
This post was edited on 11/19/09 at 3:48 pm
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4692 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 3:48 pm to
wow, thanks max.
Posted by Trender
Member since May 2009
384 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 3:56 pm to
Fight goes to ground = Koscheck wins
Fight stays standing = Johnson wins

I think Koscheck-Johnson will be decided by Koscheck's strategy. It seems simple that Koscheck would takedown Johnson and win, but the recent trend has been wrestler abandoning their skill in favor of striking (see Sherk for example).
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4692 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 4:00 pm to
Johnson's background is wrestling too, this added to his size makes a kos ground win not so definite. I think he takes Kos pretty easily, but I have been very wrong before.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20998 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 4:01 pm to
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Am I crazy for thinking Rumble Johnson is a legit threat to GSP?


He's really the only one at 170 that has a chance IMO. We'll see how he does with Kos' wrestling this weekend and then we can all make a better judgement as to how he'll fare with GSP.

With that said, I don't think Johnson will be able to stuff Kos' takedowns and loses a decision.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20998 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 4:02 pm to
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Johnson's background is wrestling too


Yeah but Kos' wrestling pedigree is a lot better than Johnson's. We'll see though. Should be good.


Oh and frick Karo. I'm sure he knew about this well in advance.
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 4:11 pm to
LAS VEGAS—Keith Kizer, the Executive Director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, said Karo Parisyan was cleared to fight Dustin Hazelett at UFC 106 this Saturday.

Kizer was unaware that Parisyan had been removed from the card when contacted by MMAWeekly shortly before the pre-fight press conference for UFC 106.

“That’s news to me,” he said. “No one’s told me anything otherwise. As far as I know, he was still on the card as of this morning.”

On Tuesday afternoon, White posted a fiery message on his official Twitter account, saying, “Karo Parisyan has (expletive) over the UFC, the fans and his opponent again! He will not be fighting Saturday or ever again in the UFC!”

Shortly after, White clarified that Parisyan had withdrawn from the fight with a "laundry list of excuses" in a subsequent posting.

Moments after the initial message, Parisyan told MMAWeekly he had been removed from the card because he didn’t pay a $32,000 fine he owed to the NSAC as punishment for testing positive for banned painkillers after his UFC 94 fight with Dong Hyun Kim.

“That has nothing to do with it,” said Kizer. “He was going to pay the fine out of this purse.”

Kizer said he had reached an agreement with Parisyan to take $16,000 from his $40,000 show purse for Saturday’s fight. If Parisyan won, an additional $16,000 would be taken from his win purse, which was also $40,000.

“If he lost or had a draw, we’d get 16 out of his next fight,” said Kizer.

The executive director said he spoke with Parisyan on Monday and the fighter said he was suffering from leg pain.

“He said, ‘is there any way I could take something stronger than Tylenol?’” recalled Kizer. “I said not without our doctor saying okay.”

Parisyan has long suffered pain in his hamstring after badly tearing it in preparation for a title fight with Matt Hughes at UFC 56. The Armenian-American fighter said he took strong pain medication to deal with the injury.

Kizer asked Parisyan to have the doctor treating him for the leg injury to contact the NSAC’s doctor to see whether Parisyan could take something stronger for the pain without using a banned substance. He never heard from Parisyan’s doctor.

After hearing of White’s message, Parisyan told MMAWeekly his career is in serious jeopardy.

“Everything is over, bro,” he said. “I’m just going to go home. Everything’s (expletive) up…I’ve got to think about what I want to do for my career.”

Hazelett declined to comment on the situation until he had received official confirmation from the UFC. White later tweeted that he would pay Hazelett his show and win money.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27130 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 4:18 pm to
Sucks for Hazelett. He has not fought in a long time due to injury. Hopefully they can get him on a card in the next month or two. His fights are always entertaining.
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 11/19/09 at 4:21 pm to
Agreed!
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