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re: Tyrann Mathieu will receive no guaranteed money; possible weekly drug tests
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:52 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:52 am to Topwater Trout
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I wonder if this is all bs and a signing bonus is going to be kept under the table. No agent would agree to this.
This is what I'm guessing. Maybe not a signing bonus in the traditional sense but maybe salaries that are fully guaranteed in the event of injury or something like that.
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:54 am to DownSouthCrawfish
I wonder what percentage of NFL players regularly smoke weed. It's probable a good many players. If TM7 played for AU or UF any positive test probably would have been swept under the rug and the general public would never even know he smoked.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:56 am to motorbreath
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If TM7 played for AU or UF any positive test probably would have been swept under the rug and the general public would never even know he smoked.
uh no...TM lost count after 10 failed drug tests dude
who knows how many there were
dude just isn't smart
if he was anywhere it would've come out and he would've been kicked off the team way sooner
ETA not anywhere prob, i'm not saying LSU is the worst about this but he would've been gone from Auburn...see: Michael Dyer
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 10:57 am
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:59 am to Walking the Earth
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This is what I'm guessing. Maybe not a signing bonus in the traditional sense but maybe salaries that are fully guaranteed in the event of injury or something like that.
Signing bonus rolled into his contract. Basically his would be higher than other players selected around him. if he does sign a contract without any kind og guarantees he is an idiot. All NFL players want to make 3 years in the league to get benefits.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:00 am to beaver
I doubt he failed 10 tests. I hope you don't believe everything you read. LSU has one of the toughest testing programs in the SEC.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:08 am to Kracka
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I understand your argument, but you are asking them to guarantee money to a mentally unstable guy, who they aren't sure is going to make the team much less stay clean.
Ok...they essentially hired him to play football for them. Normal folks pay millions to watch the players. Plus the game is dangerous. How much money will he make since nothing is guaranteed? What if he doesn't play well? What if he gets hurt?
I understand the risk in drafting him but NOBODY made them draft him. It's no different than drafting a guy who's heart exploded. You took the risk.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:09 am to ReauxlTide222
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It's no different than drafting a guy who's heart exploded.
RIP Len Bias
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:10 am to motorbreath
He said he lost count at 10..
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:12 am to Topwater Trout
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That is kind of messed up. His agent should not accept this. The cardinals drafted him knowing the risks involved. If he has a career ending injury in his first year he will have nothing.
If you heard what he said on draft night he basically said I'll submit to whatever drug tests you want. I think its wise on his part. He is confident and knows that if he shows out that his next contract will be the moneymaker.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:12 am to beaver
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Reprot: Tyrann Mathieu won't get guaranteed contract
fricking interns
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:13 am to jimithing11
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fricking interns
They were baked out of their skulls at that point
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:14 am to DEANintheYAY
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He is confident and knows that if he shows out that his next contract will be the moneymaker
One injury and he has nothing. What is the average career of an NFL player? less than 3 years?
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:14 am to beaver
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possible weekly drug tests
He's so fricked
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:22 am to Kracka
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but you are asking them to guarantee money to a mentally unstable guy
Where do you people come from with your analysis? He smokes weed. Where does that equal mentally unstable?
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:22 am to Topwater Trout
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One injury and he has nothing. What is the average career of an NFL player? less than 3 years?
I understand that. He just needs to bank the money he gets to ensure that he will have money in the bank if need be.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:24 am to beaver
Tyrann and his agent agreed to this before the draft. Tyrann told the NFL Network that he will put in his contract that the team has the right to test him whenever they want... Whatever it takes for the team to feel comfortable.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:26 am to nofear67
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Where do you people come from with your analysis? He smokes weed. Where does that equal mentally unstable?
How can people be this obtuse ill never know.
Smoking weed = not a problem
Not being able to stop when you have everything to lose= problem
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 11:27 am
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:45 am to motorbreath
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I doubt he failed 10 tests. I hope you don't believe everything you read. LSU has one of the toughest testing programs in the SEC.
I don't think it's all about the failed drug tests either. Although that might be alot. But they know this guy has mental/personal issues. shite he couldn't even stay out of trouble when he was kicked off and supposedly working to get back on it. Teams IMO are just tired of dealing with the shite that comes with some of these players. Especially since they don't owe him shite since he's never played a down for them much less signed a contract.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:51 am to ReauxlTide222
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It's no different than drafting a guy who's heart exploded. You took the risk.
It is different. How are you going to sign someone if their heart exploded already? Let's play devil's advocate. If you are a GM of a team, and say you've got a player who has documented heart issues, has had a heart attack, and maybe a couple scares with fainting. Are you seriously going to give him guaranteed money? Knowing that he could drop dead any given moment?
quote:Which he hasn't done yet.
Ok...they essentially hired him to play football for them.
quote:I am normal and I don't pay millions to watch the players.
Normal folks pay millions to watch the players.
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Plus the game is dangerous.
You know that going into it. Not the teams fault and they should not be penalized for it.
quote:How is this the team's fault. Why should they have to give money away if they aren't sure the investment will be returned? Why is he "entitled" to get guaranteed money?
How much money will he make since nothing is guaranteed? What if he doesn't play well? What if he gets hurt?
quote:So why should someone make them give him guaranteed money?
understand the risk in drafting him but NOBODY made them draft him.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:58 am to nofear67
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Where do you people come from with your analysis? He smokes weed. Where does that equal mentally unstable?
If the whole failing ten (or more) drug tests thing is true, that's a pretty big problem.
Smoking weed isn't a problem. Smoking weed to the point where you are jeopardizing your entire future livelihood is a problem. Actually doing it, and being dumb, enough to get busted a dozen times is a huge problem.
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