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re: Toronto Blue Jays acquire Reyes, Johnson, Buerhle, Bonifacio and Buck from Miami

Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28097 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:03 pm to
HOLEEEEEEfrick! PPPPPPPPPPpeJjjjer like CAPS! Where did this come from?????
Posted by petar
Miami
Member since May 2009
5989 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:05 pm to
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I've given up on them. SHame. Shitty organization.


Forget the marlins... Miami made a mistake by not building a football stadium downtown.. now we got to drive to the shite stadium of sun life for hurricane and dolphin games
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:06 pm to
The pitching staff has youth in it with Hughes stepping up after a rough first month, Phelps pitched well in spot duty, CC is still an ace, Nova is an innings eater #4 pitcher, Pineda will be ready by mid season if Andy/Kuroda return Yankees have a strong staff.

The line up will be iffy with Swisher gone but Gardner will be back to provide speed at the top. If Jeter can bounce bal the line up will be fine during regular season. Playoffs and facing a staff like Detroits will hurt.

The Jays haven't done enough to close the gap. Getting Bautista back and adding Reyes/Buck helps the offense and as I said earlier Mark isn't anything special and not a difference maker. Key is going to be Johnson and if he can pitch well against AL line ups all year. They closed the gap but they still have a long way to go. Only 2 pitchers finished in top 36 in ERA last year (26/36) while Yankees had 4.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
82010 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

I've given up on them. SHame. Shitty organization.





I remember growing up in the mid 90s in S. Florida and remember that 97 team really well. Such a shame they can't sustain anything long-term (and it's happened now several times in their history)
Posted by bddwolfpack
NYC
Member since Sep 2010
9407 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:07 pm to
Marlins getting a haul of prospects
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:09 pm to
Prospects they hope can into players just as good or better than what they gave up. Maybe 1 or 2 turns into a legit player usually in these types of deals. Think what What Texas got for Tex is more an anomaly.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:10 pm to
Got a full recap of who is going to which team?
ESPN just says "prospects"
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:11 pm to
Prospects we can sell in 5 years I'm sure.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19234 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:13 pm to
The Blue Jays just became THE FAVORITES to win the AL East
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:13 pm to
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The Toronto Blue Jays may have gotten the pitching help they've been looking for.

According to reports, the Jays have acquired starting pitchers Mark Buehrle and Josh Johnson, as well as shortstop Jose Reyes and catcher John Buck, from the Miami Marlins.

In exchange, the Marlins receive pitcher Henderson Alvarez and shortstops Yunel Escobar and Adeiny Hechavarria.
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 6:15 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:14 pm to
Angels thought the same and they got the bigger names, sure Boston thought that as well
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28097 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:16 pm to
Boston looks weak right now and Yanks maybe primed for a letdown this year...
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:17 pm to
How can you diss Buehrle and praise Ivan Nova?

If healthy the Jays have a better rotation and lineup than NYY now, IMO.
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22516 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:18 pm to
What in the frick just happened?

Did Ozzie put a time bomb in the stadium before he left?
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28097 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:19 pm to
wait also includes Emilio Bonifacio?????????????/
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5293 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:20 pm to
Alright, I'm pissed off!!! Plain & Simple- Giancarlo Stanton on twitter

People aren't sure this trade goes through. Will ruin the Miami market for mlb
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:21 pm to
No Bonafacio.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28097 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:23 pm to
i am hearing five players to the Jays though...
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9375 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:24 pm to
I would have made two separate deals. Johnson and parts to the Rangers(Rangers have tried to get Johnson in the past) and Reyes inc. to the Jays. Would have netted more top end talent in return.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28097 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:24 pm to
I am sure as frick glad they didn't
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