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Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:30 am to
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How would he get from the 4 to the half yard line?


falling/momentum

Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:30 am to
Yes, it still counts
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 8:32 am
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:31 am to
quote:

falling/momentum


and he was able to stretch out to the goal line.

Falling/momentum
Posted by TDawg1313
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:32 am to
Do I think it should have been a catch? Yes.

Was it a catch by what's defined in the NFL rules? No.

So the correct call was made.
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:33 am to
Wrong
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:33 am to
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and he was able to stretch out to the goal line.


barely...as in his elbows were not even fully extended and at the last minute

some of y'all are just seeing what y'all want to see

jesus
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:33 am to
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but if you do not retain possession through the "football move" is that still a catch?

once he extends it's a football move and a completed catch and that "going to the ground" rule should not apply

then it's a "ground can't cause a fumble" rule, imho
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:36 am to
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once he extends it's a football move and a completed catch and that "going to the ground" rule should not apply


if he would have fully extended, I probably would agree with you

but he barely extends at the last minute and doesn't retain possession through the act

I don't see how anyone can say that was a catch
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:36 am to
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he wasn't stretching for the endzone, he was just falling to the ground...wtf?
Only Dez knows this. We can pretend we do or don't know, but none of us actually know what his intent was, we're just guessing.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:37 am to
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turns his body and stretches in my view

if he kept falling he'd have rolled out of bounds with the ball in a different position entirely, possibly behind his head
Yea, it would be, like I said, a pretty unnatural fall for him to make if it were near midfield.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:38 am to
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falling to the ground is a football move?
No, but all the other stuff he did, and there was a good bit of things happening arguably constitute a football move.
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:38 am to
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once he extends it's a football move and a completed catch and that "going to the ground" rule should not apply

then it's a "ground can't cause a fumble" rule, imho



Repeat 1000 times until everyone understands what rule we should be talking about
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:39 am to
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a pretty unnatural fall for him to make if it were near midfield.


he fell forward...
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:40 am to
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No, but all the other stuff he did, and there was a good bit of things happening arguably constitute a football move.


Certainly and saying there weren't is just stupid.

Because of the cumbersome nature of the rule it could be determined it was incomplete. But to deny in no form or fashion its possible he was making a football play is insane.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:41 am to
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barely
So you're saying he was able to stretch, the rules says the stretch equates to a football move, and he stretched before the ball hit the ground, so it would seem like the rest of the rule wouldn't apply once he stretches.
Posted by RedHawk
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:41 am to
If that isn't a catch, then I don't know what is and I'm Redskin fan and hate the Cowboys. But he caught the ball, took three steps and lunged for the goal line all before the ball hit the ground.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:42 am to
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he fell forward
Go on...tell the rest of the story, there's more to it than that.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:42 am to
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I don't see how anyone can say that was a catch
Stop
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:46 am to
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the rules says the stretch equates to a football move


if he would have finished his stretch...maybe

Y'all are acting like he was fully extended going towards the goal line

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:47 am to
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Go on...tell the rest of the story, there's more to it than that.


He catches the ball in the air, comes down with 2 feet, falls over the defender, comes down elbow first and the ball pops out
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