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re: top 5 players in the nba right now
Posted on 12/18/08 at 3:53 pm to Solo
Posted on 12/18/08 at 3:53 pm to Solo
Well guys, objectively I can't put my beloved Dirk in my top five... he's either 6 or 7.
Some of you have really retarded lists
and where the frick is my boy Tim Duncan? Does anyone watch basketball?
1. Lebron James
2. Dwayne Wade
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Chris Paul
5. Tim Duncan
From a standpoint of winning championships, I'd take Duncan on my team (even at 32) over Dwight Howard. basketball IQ/skill > athleticism.
Some of you have really retarded lists
and where the frick is my boy Tim Duncan? Does anyone watch basketball?
1. Lebron James
2. Dwayne Wade
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Chris Paul
5. Tim Duncan
From a standpoint of winning championships, I'd take Duncan on my team (even at 32) over Dwight Howard. basketball IQ/skill > athleticism.
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Posted on 12/18/08 at 3:56 pm to Ghazi
One more note on Howard, I know you idiots have a hardon for athleticism and Sportscenter highlight reel plays, but that guy ALWAYS seems to get owned head to head v opposing big men.
Duncan, Yao, and even Gasol... + Bynum, always win the individual battles.
Another thing, as I've said before, HE HAS NO POST GAME SKILL ALL OF HIS POINTS COME OFF ATHLETICISM.
Duncan, Yao, and even Gasol... + Bynum, always win the individual battles.
Another thing, as I've said before, HE HAS NO POST GAME SKILL ALL OF HIS POINTS COME OFF ATHLETICISM.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 3:58 pm to Ghazi
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HE HAS NO POST GAME SKILL ALL OF HIS POINTS COME OFF ATHLETICISM.
Why does that matter if they can each get the same amount of points each night?
Posted on 12/18/08 at 3:59 pm to Ghazi
21 ppg
14 reb
4 bpg
14 reb
4 bpg
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:06 pm to Lester Earl
It's the reason he generally gets outplayed by the aformentioned big men... which is why I'd take Duncan over Howard.
Don't tell me it's irrational to put Duncan over Howard. DON'T!
I'd rank Howard as the 7th best player in the game based on that athleticism alone... if he can develop a complimentary post game he can enter the top 5.
Don't tell me it's irrational to put Duncan over Howard. DON'T!
I'd rank Howard as the 7th best player in the game based on that athleticism alone... if he can develop a complimentary post game he can enter the top 5.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:07 pm to Ghazi
Dirk isn't better than Howard.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:09 pm to Louie T
Athletically? No
As a basketball player? Yes
As a basketball player? Yes
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:11 pm to Ghazi
You're not a homer at all though, right?
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:23 pm to Louie T
Look guys, if I'm trying to knock up a cheerleader or make Sportscenter, I'll take Dwight Howard over Dirk Nowitzki.
But if I'm in the final minute of a game, where basketball intelligence, clutch shooting, FT shooting, and reading defenses becomes more relevant than athleticism and knocking up cheerleaders, I'll take Dirk motherfrickin Nowitzki over Dwight Howard 10/10 times.
It should say something about Dwight Howard's cheerleader knocking/unclutch ways when hedo fricking Turkoglu is the guy they want taking the final shot.
But if I'm in the final minute of a game, where basketball intelligence, clutch shooting, FT shooting, and reading defenses becomes more relevant than athleticism and knocking up cheerleaders, I'll take Dirk motherfrickin Nowitzki over Dwight Howard 10/10 times.
It should say something about Dwight Howard's cheerleader knocking/unclutch ways when hedo fricking Turkoglu is the guy they want taking the final shot.
This post was edited on 12/18/08 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:26 pm to Ghazi
After seeing a few guy put Kobe over Lebron, I can't read this thread. Lebron is only averaging more points, rebounds, and assists that Kobe. And he's shooting better from both the field and behind the arc. Other than that, yeah, Kobe's better.
Right now, I think Lebron and D-Wade have separated themselves a bit. With CP3 and Kobe right behind.
Right now, I think Lebron and D-Wade have separated themselves a bit. With CP3 and Kobe right behind.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:27 pm to Ghazi
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Don't tell me it's irrational to put Duncan over Howard. DON'T!
I never said its irrational to rank Duncan ahead of him.
However, you have a horrible point when you said that Duncan is better because he has better post moves.
If Howard avgs the same amount of points by dunking, etc, then you really don't have a point. They are both effective in their own way.
Shaq never had the polished post game that Duncan had and he is one of the best big men ever to play.
The object of the game is to score buckets. If you are effective kicking the ball into the goal at %55, then that is what you are going to do. It doesn't mean you arent a good scorer though.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:29 pm to Hot Carl
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After seeing a few guy put Kobe over Lebron, I can't read this thread. Lebron is only averaging more points, rebounds, and assists that Kobe. And he's shooting better from both the field and behind the arc. Other than that, yeah, Kobe's better.
Kobe has much better supporting talent. If we are going by numbers alone, KG wouldn't even be a top 20 player.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:33 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:
Magic > Kobe
Bird > Kobe
Russell > Kobe
Wilt > Kobe
I think MJ, the Big O, and Bill Russell are guys that are just hard to ever pass. I think Kobe could be greater than Bird or Magic, though.
Currently:
1. Bron
2. Kobe
3. Howard
4. Paul
5. Wade
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:33 pm to Ghazi
quote:
Duncan, Yao, and even Gasol... + Bynum, always win the individual battles.
2 games vs San Antonio last year: 29pts 18 rebs %65 FG
2 games vs LA: 18 pts 10 REBS %50FG
2 games vs HOU: 18 pts 10boards 70%FG
really bad games
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:34 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Kobe has much better supporting talent.
Then Lebron should not be averaging 2 more assists than him a game, no?
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:42 pm to Hot Carl
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Then Lebron should not be averaging 2 more assists than him a game, no?
Carl, they have different roles on their respective teams. I think most who have watched the Lakers and Cavs over the last two years can tell that the Lakers are one of the more consistent teams when it comes to running an offense, whereas most of what the Cavs do comes from LeBron taking the ball and facilitating. It's two different situations. LeBron is a better passer, but if Kobe was in Cleveland I'm sure his points and assists would be up as well.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 4:45 pm to AlexLSU
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Carl, they have different roles on their respective teams. I think most who have watched the Lakers and Cavs over the last two years can tell that the Lakers are one of the more consistent teams when it comes to running an offense, whereas most of what the Cavs do comes from LeBron taking the ball and facilitating. It's two different situations. LeBron is a better passer, but if Kobe was in Cleveland I'm sure his points and assists would be up as well.
I agree to an extent. But I also think that Kobe is past his prime. He's logged a lot of NBA minutes, despite his age. He was the best player in the NBA for a several years. I just don't think he is anymore. He's still one of the best in the league and one of the best of all time.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 5:01 pm to Hot Carl
quote:
top 5 players:
1. Kobe (reigning MVP)
2. LeBron (could be #1 by the end of the year)
3. Wade (has worst supporting cast of top 5 players)
4. Paul (Will play at a higher level than Nash did for his two MVP years but will average that for over 10 years)
6. Howard (Physical freak with need of a true PG to explode into an NBA champion)
hits the nail on the friggin head imo
Posted on 12/18/08 at 5:03 pm to Ghazi
quote:
and where the frick is my boy Tim Duncan? Does anyone watch basketball?
quote:
From a standpoint of winning championships, I'd take Duncan on my team (even at 32) over Dwight Howard. basketball IQ/skill > athleticism.
even as a big spurs fan i'll say that duncan has had the perfect team to win those with not to mention having the best coach in the nba
the other players have not had that although kobe is damn near close to that assessment as well (however kobe could hold is own better with a no-show team and coach but it's hard to compare kobe with duncan)
This post was edited on 12/18/08 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 12/18/08 at 5:57 pm to Hot Carl
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But I also think that Kobe is past his prime. He's logged a lot of NBA minutes, despite his age. He was the best player in the NBA for a several years. I just don't think he is anymore. He's still one of the best in the league and one of the best of all time.
He is definitely on the tail end. He'll stay consistently at the top of the league for a 3-5 more years if he has the role he plays now, which is quarters 1-3.
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