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re: Top 15 NBA "Looking Forward" Players (over the next 10 years)

Posted on 3/7/12 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 5:30 pm to
How is Roy Hibbert not on this list??
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 5:33 pm to
beaubois. -broken.
Lin. -system pg
jimmer- can't get his shot. can't defend. can't get off the bench. in sacto.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 5:34 pm to
because roy hibbert can't seem to last a whole season with any sort of consistency, and he's hit his physical ceiling.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 6:03 pm to
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bynum is a big man and much more valuable than curry or gordon.

Back in the preseason, you thought Bynum was not worth his contract because of his injuries, right?

Crazy how shite changes so fast. He is so valuable. Imagine how fricking good the Lakers would be with Kobe, Bynum, and Paul. Ok, the rest of the team would suck dick, but they would have two top 7 players (top 7 at worst). Then, Bynum is a top 20 or better with a HUGE impact on every game.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 6:10 pm to
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Back in the preseason, you thought Bynum was not worth his contract because of his injuries, right?

amazing what a healthy year will do

Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 6:23 pm to
Jimmer is a worse JJ Redick. Why would he be on any list like this?
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 7:25 pm to
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no, it's parts of the basis of my opinion. criteria would mean for the discussion those rules would apply to everyone's opinion (and they don't)


By being the thread starter, you essentially state the grounds of what any other poster should look for in this thread...i.e. Wade not being on this list, Curry not being on the OP list. You essentially took two players off the board to responders claiming injury history while completely ignoring that standard that you initially set. Criteria is set at the beginning of every thread, but being who you are, you change the argument as you go along.

Your picks of Eric Gordon and Andrew Bynum ignore the same standard you set for Steph Curry. By claiming that Bynums relatively healthy season makes a world of difference in ranking, while also leaving out the fact that Gordon is (likely) out for the year completely, your rankings contradict your own short-sighted reasoning.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 7:33 pm to
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I'm a fan of Tebow so I tend to root for the underdog. However, if Beaubois gave 2 shits he'd be the best pg in the league. Offensively and defensively.


Beaubois? Are you fricking me?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 7:35 pm to
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Wade not being on this list, Curry not being on the OP list. You essentially took two players off the board to responders claiming injury history

wade is old. that's a bigger deal than his injury history

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while completely ignoring that standard that you initially set.

in the immortal words of larry david, "i took a risk"

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Your picks of Eric Gordon and Andrew Bynum ignore the same standard you set for Steph Curry.

i think gordon is a much better player with more potential, so with the same risks he's going to be ranked higher

bynum falls in the same boat. if he had no injury history he'd be #2 or 3

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while also leaving out the fact that Gordon is (likely) out for the year completely,

i think a lot of that has to do with the hornets tanking. i think he could have played more, but that would hurt the hornets

Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 8:11 pm to
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in the immortal words of larry david, "i took a risk"



By acknowledging the "risk" you took you acknowledging your reasoning behind your lists is irrational, making the entire OP worthless.

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i think gordon is a much better player with more potential, so with the same risks he's going to be ranked higher


You need to watch more basketball if this is your reasoning. Gordon is more complete, but Curry's elite skill reaches beyond his athelticsim, where Gordon relies more on his. Curry will be a more effective player further down his career than Gordon.
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bynum falls in the same boat. if he had no injury history he'd be #2 or 3
If that's the case then Greg Oden is in the top 5.


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i think a lot of that has to do with the hornets tanking. i think he could have played more, but that would hurt the hornets


If you were a long time fan of the NBA, you would realize that when an injury is hidden, like it is now with Gordon, it is more serious than you can imagine. David West had the same mysterious knee injury in his second year(he actually had reconstructive surgery) and when he came back his game was different. To believe in Gordon being a top 10 player for the next 10 years, with his injury history, is asinine.
Posted by cjones532
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 8:14 pm to
Rajon Rondo? Tyreke Evans? Monta Ellis?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 8:29 pm to
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By acknowledging the "risk" you took you acknowledging your reasoning behind your lists is irrational, making the entire OP worthless.

i don't think steph curry is a guy worthy of that kind of risk. it's not a foreign concept

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Curry will be a more effective player further down his career than Gordon.

he has no position and plays no defense

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If that's the case then Greg Oden is in the top 5.

because greg oden has produced at elite levels in the NBA?

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David West had the same mysterious knee injury in his second year(he actually had reconstructive surgery) and when he came back his game was different.

it wasn't really that different
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 8:31 pm to
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Rajon Rondo?

gotta see what he does without the big 3

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Tyreke Evans?

no way

curry would get in 100x before evans

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Monta Ellis?

are you joking?

i pity the fool who relies on monta ellis as a franchise changer
Posted by MrSteeleFarenheit
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 8:41 pm to
Anyone say Faried yet cuz he's an obvious one. And definitely Batum. Hopefully Hayward. And I'll hit u with James Ennis at Long Beach St. Kwame Alexander out in Cali can play too.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 8:48 pm to
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Anyone say Faried yet cuz he's an obvious one.

i love that dude

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Hopefully Hayward.

gordon?

uh....no
Posted by Pistol...2K4
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 8:56 pm to
WestBrIck is way too high
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 8:57 pm to
OK skip
Posted by Pistol...2K4
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476597 posts
Posted on 3/7/12 at 9:16 pm to
yeah ole westbrook is only fricking around and putting up like 24/5/5 with good %s and great D and he's young as frick
Posted by Pistol...2K4
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Posted on 3/7/12 at 9:54 pm to
not a westbrick fan at all , you can be though if you wish....Love me some James Harden though
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