re: Tom Brady is now alone as the greatest NFL QB ever

There was more parity in the NFC and better defenses all around back in the 80's. Also, the rules weren't as relaxed as they are for QBs now. Montana bounced back from two serious injuries, the latter a near career-ender that cemented Young's place and relegated him to Kansas City, where I might add he got the Chiefs into the AFC title game and one season later defeated his former 49ers teammates the year they won the big game with Steve Young at the helm.

People talk about talent, Montana and Brady each have a HOF coach.

Montana had HOF teammates in Ronnie Lott, Fred Dean the first part of his run, Jerry Rice and Steve Young the latter half. He also crushed two of the top five greats in Elway and Marino in the big game. And came from behind with the best 4th Quarter drive to win in Super Bowl history before Eli Manning's heroics.

When all is said and done, Brady will have played with HOFs in Tedy Bruschi, Ty Law, Randy Moss, Rodney Harrison, Junior Seau, Adam Vinatieri, Vince Wolfork, Gronk, potentially Richard Seymour, Logan Mankins, Matt Light. The Salary Cap sure effected that stud defense, ay?

I will give Brady his due. He is number two for me ahead of Elway. For those of you born later than 1985, I will forgive your millennial judgment. Yes Brady owns all of the postseason records. It took him a couple extra seasons and a couple of extra Super Bowls to make that happen. Montana's Super Bowl stat line, in four games,will never be duplicated.

I think Brady is the most accomplished of his generation. If you want to say all-time, we'll have a word with Bart Starr who has more titles to his credit.

Did Brady define the game with his playing style? Not like the prototype Elway, or rocket arm Marino.

He is clutch. But so was Montana.

People call Montana a system QB. Well Brady has played in the same dink and dunk system as well. Apples and oranges.

I will take a guy who found success outside of his system after his career should've ended at the hands of the Giants in the 1990 NFC title game at Candlestick. Montana had no right having success in Kansas City, but he did.

What do I know? If you ask Montana, he always says Marino. If you ask anyone 30 or younger, they will say Brady. If you ask anyone older, you will have Elway, Marino, Favre, but nobody can deny Joe Cool.

Montana had Rice for two Super Bowls. Brady had Moss for two Super Bowls and what happened?

See above post, when all is said and done, Brady will have played with more HOF than Montana, especially looking on the defensive side. The talent issue can just be pointed back to Rice. Montana had a decent tight end in Clark during first two titles. Brady has Gronk. I'd rate Edelman, Welker, Troy Brown over Montana's John Taylor

He got the Browns to the playoffs.

Had present day QB rules been in place then, Montana could've easily won 2-3 more. Heck, his best team the 90 Niners would have gone if Montana hadn't been blindsided and roughed to the turf, nearly ending his career. That hit nowadays would have garnished an ejection.

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Brady had Moss for one Super Bowl and what happened?

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FIFY.

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Montana had a decent tight end in Clark during first two titles.

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Clark was a WR and he was better than decent. He was an All-Pro receiver whose number has been retired in San Francisco. Freddie Solomon was another WR Montana had at his disposal in his first two Super Bowls who was more than decent. Charle Young was an aging, but great, TE that Montana had at his calling when his other receivers were covered up. He was an All-Pro throughout the 70s and also had multiple Pro Bowl appearances.

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Welker had five 1,000 yard seasons

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All of them with Brady and the Patriots. Before Welker got to New England the only thing people thought about him was that he was a good return man. Brady made him into a star. Since going to Denver there has been a notable drop off in his production. Perhaps it's injuries, perhaps it's age, but the man has not been the same since leaving New England.

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brown had the stellar 1,000 yard 2001

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Which turned out to be his first and only 1,000-yard season, and he had been with the Patriots since 1993. Is it a coincidence that Brady was throwing to him?

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Edelman topped 1,000 last year and had 972 this year.

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He was a perennial back-up player with the Patriots until Welker's departure. He had been with the franchise since '09 and hadn't distinguished himself enough to get significant playing time up until last year. Edelman's stats are a byproduct of a lack of options. Not skill.

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Since going to Denver there has been a notable drop off in his production. Perhaps it's injuries, perhaps it's age, but the man has not been the same since leaving New England.

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could also be the options, but regardless, he was better with brady than with manning.

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Rodgers absolutely could if he was healthy.

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Not with that Patriots offense.

Nope and neither could Manning or Brees

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Tom Brady is now alone as the greatest NFL QB ever

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How many points did Tom Brady's teams score offensively in his Super Bowl appearances? In Tom Brady's 6 Super Bowl appearances the New England Patriots have averaged 21.33 points per game scored by the offense. Joe Montana's San Francisco 49er's averaged 34.75 points per game scored by the offense in his 4 Super Bowl appearances. Terry Bradshaw's Pittsburg Steelers averaged 24.75 points per game scored by the offense in his 4 Super Bowl appearances.

Tom Brady has been the worst of the QBs with 4 Super Bowl wins at leading his team's offense in terms of scoring points. The margin of victory in his first win against the St. Louis Rams was 3 points, and 7 of the Patriots points came from an interception return by Ty Law. In 3 of his appearances the Patriots scored 17 points or less.