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re: Tiger's majors career is done. Nicklaus is, and always will be, the GOAT..

Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by TequilaMockingBird
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:20 pm to
Absolutely. You have to be good at match play and stroke play. And do you understand how hard it is to be mentally tough enough to go through a round of 64 match play at the age of 18? I doubt you do. It's so many rounds of golf your mind really starts fricking with you.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:21 pm to
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all against deeper competition


So the bottom guys on the tour are better than the bottom feeders used to be. Whoop-dee-fricking-doo.

The top was MUCH more competitive in the Nicklaus era.
Posted by lsugolf1105
BR
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:21 pm to
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It took a 65-65 by Watson at Turnberry to beat his 65-66 finish to win by one stroke in 1977. Tiger has never faced competition that fierce on the final weekend of a major.


bob may shot 66-66 on the weekend at the 2000 pga.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:22 pm to
It's funny when older people talk about how much better the players were in Larry Bird's era. But if you go back and watch the games, you realize how much the game has advanced since then.

Then ask them about Wilt Chamberlain's era and they talk about how the game was too simple back then and blah blah.

Isn't it convenient that the era the person you are talking to grew up in is always the "best" era and it's declined since then...
Posted by OutofTownAlumni
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:22 pm to
Lol but name the us am winners who won majors. Hell name ones who won on the pgatour.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:23 pm to
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bob may shot 66-66 on the weekend at the 2000 pga.


And beat Tiger by 5 strokes in those two rounds.
Posted by The Stash
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:24 pm to
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Absolutely. You have to be good at match play and stroke play. And do you understand how hard it is to be mentally tough enough to go through a round of 64 match play at the age of 18? I doubt you do. It's so many rounds of golf your mind really starts fricking with you.



Then why has no amateur won the US Open? Even if I give you that fact you are wrong about everything else .. So much so that you can not be taken seriously on anything else about competitive golf.
Posted by TequilaMockingBird
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:24 pm to
Golf, like all sports, will keep producing better athletes. In 40 years the training and sciences will be more advanced and the fields will be deeper then than they are now. It really is dumb to compare the athletes from 30-40 years ago because most couldn't compete with today's guys. And the same will be true in the future.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:24 pm to
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Plus about half the people in the golf business that I know agree with me that the US am is the hardest tournament to win.


The main point I would add to this is that the US Am has to be the hardest tournament to repeat. Winning it once is definitely really tough, but winning it three times in a row is incredibly impressive. That means that Tiger couldn't have a single golfer beat him in 18 straight rounds in match play. Playing 18 rounds in a row better than your opponent really is unbelievable.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:24 pm to
A golf swing is a golf swing. The equipment has advanced far more than the technique.

Posted by lsugolf1105
BR
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:25 pm to
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And beat Tiger by 5 strokes in those two rounds.


and???? tiger won the tournament.
Posted by TequilaMockingBird
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:26 pm to
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Then why has no amateur won the US Open? Even if I give you that fact you are wrong about everything else .. So much so that you can not be taken seriously on anything else about competitive golf.

It's all relative you idiot. Plus Bobby Jones win the US open as an am. It is much harder for a 19 year old kid to win the US am than it is for a tour professional to win the US Open.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:27 pm to
Better golfers has nothing to do with more athletic golfers now. They practice more and have more proven teaching and techniques, tools, etc.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:27 pm to
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and???? tiger won the tournament.


No shite. He wasn't challenged. Nicklaus and Watson had the greatest dual the game has ever seen on the weekend of the British Open. And you bring up Bob May?
Posted by The Stash
The Boot
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:27 pm to
Meh, I mean in match play in the US Am you can have a bad round and still advance .. If you have a bad round in the US Open you are not going to win.
Posted by OutofTownAlumni
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:28 pm to
Since 93. Besides Tiger, Moore and Kuchar. That's it in wins on tour. Lol
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:28 pm to
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Then why has no amateur won the US Open?


Not trying to be a dick, but didn't Francis Ouimet win the open as an amateur?
Posted by TequilaMockingBird
Member since Jul 2013
823 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:29 pm to
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A golf swing is a golf swing. The equipment has advanced far more than the technique.


No it's not. Technique has gotten much better especially for junior players. More good junior players = more good college players= more good pros.
Posted by lsugolf1105
BR
Member since Aug 2008
3443 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:29 pm to
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The top was MUCH more competitive in the Nicklaus era


yeah especially at the british open where about 5 of the top americans played.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:29 pm to
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What competition has Eldrick had over his career that compares to Jacks?

Phil, Sergio, Adam snot, downs boy.


We have a winner here folks.

Nicklaus had to go up against Arnold Palmer, Gary Player, Lee Trevino, Tom Watson, Seve, amoung many others.

How many 2nd & 3rd places did Jack have in the majors? Well over 40.

Woods at best had Mickelson & from time to time Ernie Els.

Woods is a great player no doubt, probably in the top 5 of all time great but definately not the GOAT.
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