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re: Tiger's majors career is done. Nicklaus is, and always will be, the GOAT..
Posted on 6/29/14 at 8:09 am to League Champs
Posted on 6/29/14 at 8:09 am to League Champs
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Tiger turned pro in 1996. This is Tigers 18th year as a pro. Jack turned pro in 1962, and this is what he did during his 18th year
in jack's 18th year as a pro (1979), he played in 12 events and finished 1st or 2nd ZERO times. He was in a slump in 1979. In fact, after 1978 Jack only managed to win 5 more times. 3 of them were majors.
some other facts:
- after 1977 (age 37), jack was never the #1 ranked golfer
- after 1976 (age 36), jack never won another money title
- after 1976 (age 36), he never won another POY
so, all of you who think tiger is done winning majors need to slow down. jack wasn't the best golfer at the time and still won 5 majors after the age of 37. tiger has a lot of time left. don't count him out yet.
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Posted on 6/29/14 at 8:16 am to lsugolf1105
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so, all of you who think tiger is done winning majors need to slow down. jack wasn't the best golfer at the time and still won 5 majors after the age of 37. tiger has a lot of time left. don't count him out yet.
Could Tiger do it, yes. Will he? Likely not. He hasn't won a major in a long time. The injuries and partying lifestyle have diminished his ability. I'm not sure he has the drive to win that badly anymore. I think the money has made him a bit soft, and the competition is not scared to see him on the leaderboard anymore.
Like Jack, competitors used to wilt when he was on the leaderboard. Not anymore.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 8:24 am to kywildcatfanone
Why the hell does it matter if others are scared of seeing him on the leaderboard? That is the worst argument for tiger not winning anymore majors. Who was scared of Padraig Harrington when he won 3 majors in 14 months?
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:07 am to lsugolf1105
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Why the hell does it matter if others are scared of seeing him on the leaderboard?
Tiger used to win by just playing. Not the case anymore. You should know that if you are that big of a fan of his.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:08 am to lsugolf1105
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- after 1977 (age 37), jack was never the #1 ranked golfer
- after 1976 (age 36), jack never won another money title
- after 1976 (age 36), he never won another POY
You need to understand that Nicklaus became focused on his other business interests (primarily course design) around that time. He didn't play enough to be ranked #1 in the world and he ONLY played other tournaments to prepare for the majors which were his focus in competitive golf. If you read about him you'll find that these are well documented facts.
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 9:09 am
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:10 am to lsugolf1105
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Who was scared of Padraig Harrington when he won 3 majors in 14 months?
But Padraig isn't Tiger. You are not giving Tiger enough credit by saying other players do not fear him anymore. Face it. It was a big part on why he was so good. I have a feeling he will win a couple more Majors just to shut everyone up. If he can stay healthy and can practice all the time he can get back close to what he once was.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:11 am to VABuckeye
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well documented facts.
Please leave this thread with those.
TIA.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:12 am to BRgetthenet
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Please leave this thread with those. TIA.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:12 am to lsugolf1105
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so, all of you who think tiger is done winning majors need to slow down. jack wasn't the best golfer at the time and still won 5 majors after the age of 37. tiger has a lot of time left. don't count him out yet.
Before his most recent back surgery, I considered Tiger the best golfer out there ... I expect him to regain that form again BUT that doesn't mean he will win another major (or five more).
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:16 am to The Stash
A 17 page thread about the guy who didn't even make the cut this weekend. But hey, Tiger isn't good for golf right?
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:18 am to Hat Tricks
He's only causin pain and turmoil here.
Same as with his family.
Same as with his family.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:18 am to Blutarsky
It's so hard to compare eras. I think the depth in Tiger's era is much greater than in Jack's, lured by the money and the TV. Heck Oakbourne in Lafayette was a PGA tour stop until the late 1960s. Gay Brewer and Bob Goalby and George Archer won Masters.
On the other hand, Jack conquered one of the GOAT, Arnold Palmer who was in his prime, something Tiger never did. Not his fault, as there was a long gap of elite players between Jack and Tiger, with really only Watson in between, and Watson was at the end when woods started.
I think Tiger's top peer, Mickelson, is about equal with Jack's, Trevino.
I think the younger set that came 10 years after tiger are tougher than Jack's group, which would be Watson, Crenshaw, Wadkins, Kite, etc.
Tough call, but I think Tiger needs to do a little more.
On the other hand, Jack conquered one of the GOAT, Arnold Palmer who was in his prime, something Tiger never did. Not his fault, as there was a long gap of elite players between Jack and Tiger, with really only Watson in between, and Watson was at the end when woods started.
I think Tiger's top peer, Mickelson, is about equal with Jack's, Trevino.
I think the younger set that came 10 years after tiger are tougher than Jack's group, which would be Watson, Crenshaw, Wadkins, Kite, etc.
Tough call, but I think Tiger needs to do a little more.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:21 am to BRgetthenet
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He's only causin pain and turmoil here.
Same as with his family.
:rimshot:
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:28 am to kywildcatfanone
Won by just playing? What an insult to tiger. Dude won because he was by far the best, not because he just showed up.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:29 am to MusicMaster
It was not a big part of why he was so good.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:33 am to lsugolf1105
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It was not a big part of why he was so good.
So you are saying he did not strike fear into any golfer that was in a final paring with him on A Sunday. This never happened?
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:41 am to VABuckeye
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You need to understand that Nicklaus became focused on his other business interests (primarily course design) around that time
And helping Barbara raise 5 kids.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:47 am to MusicMaster
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o you are saying he did not strike fear into any golfer that was in a final paring with him on A Sunday. This never happened?
do you have trouble reading? He said it wasn't a big part of why he was good, not that it never happened.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:59 am to MusicMaster
Sunday of a major strikes more fear in players than tiger ever did. The mental toughness of tiger is severely underrated. His record after 54 holes when leading could be argued as his greatest accomplishment.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 10:02 am to lsugolf1105
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in jack's 18th year as a pro (1979),
Math is not your strong suit is it?
1962 + 18 = 1980 (Jacks career)
1996 + 18 = 2014 (Tigers career)
Sorry that Tiger isnt 'on par' with Jack, but lets try not to reinvent history, huh?
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