re: Thoughts on the extra points from 33yards?

The Steelers and Patriots are playing for The AFC championship on a cold windy day in Foxboro. The score is tied at 13 in the 4th qtr.

Steelers score a touchdown and kick a successful 33 yard xp.

Tom Brady drives the patriots down the field with less than 2 minutes left. 30 seconds left when a touchdown is scored. But now it begins to rain or snow and there is a 20 mph crosswind.

Do you want an extra point attempt from 33 yards out to decide if you lose or possibly go into OT ?

I don't want to see a game decided like that when a championship is at stake. 1 pt kick from 33 yards in brutal conditions should not decide a true champion after two heavyweight teams battle for 60 minutes. Esp. When weather can change quickly.

The whole purpose of extra points to begin with was to make it more difficult to have a tie game after 60 minutes. Basically, it was assumed that most teams wouldn't make them with the regularity that they do now (this, of course, preceded the advent of OT).

If you really don't care for games to be decided by extra points, the more consistent line of thought would be to push for the abolition of extra point kicks altogether.

Since that doesn't appear to be in the cards, I have no problem moving the XP back. It really does reflect the original purpose of having them in the first place, as opposed to the perfunctory exercise it basically is today in the NFL.

It's like "new coke"

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I like it, gotta earn that check.

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Such an ignorant comment. I'm guessing you've never kicked a football in your life.

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Extra points, as it currently stands, are pointless.

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ETA: Not disagreeing at all. What is it, 99.4% conversion rate?

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The whole purpose of extra points to begin with was to make it more difficult to have a tie game after 60 minutes. Basically, it was assumed that most teams wouldn't make them with the regularity that they do now (this, of course, preceded the advent of OT).

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Assuming this to be true, this would have clearly been done in an age where kicking, even from extra point distance, was a difficult task. That means kicking field goals was an even more difficult task which means scores were generally more heavily reliant on touchdowns alone, meaning ties would be more likely. With kicking being done by specialists now and the advent of the "soccer style" kick, while extra points have become virtually automatic, field goals are much more consistently scored as well and at distances up to 50 yards or more, meaning the variation in scoring is now much greater than it originally was and thus leading to less ties. The NFL does not have a problem with ties at the moment, illustrating this to be an unnecessary factor.

If the problem was the issue of ties, then that is no longer a problem and thus a "remedy" is superfluous.

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Since that doesn't appear to be in the cards, I have no problem moving the XP back. It really does reflect the original purpose of having them in the first place, as opposed to the perfunctory exercise it basically is today in the NFL.

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Not if the original purpose was, as you claim, to break ties.

Football games used to be low scoring, smashmouth affairs as well, but I don't think that argument is a good one for creating some new rules to mitigate the scoring increase and offensive explosion created by the refinement of the forward pass and other offensive innovations.

I wouldn't be opposed to simply awarding 7 points for a touchdown but I also have no complaints about the extra point as is.

I suppose the heart of the issue comes down to an individual's preference on how much impact they want a team's kicker to have on the outcome of the game. My preference is for it to be minimal.

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I suppose the heart of the issue comes down to an individual's preference on how much impact they want a team's kicker to have on the outcome of the game. My preference is for it to be minimal.

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this is how I feel. A touchdown should be an autamatic 7 points. Either by getting rid of extra points or keeping it as it is. There's no reason to penalize a team that goes on a long sucessful drive because their kicker misses a long extra point.