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This Date in Baseball History - What's a Guy Got to Do Edition.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 10:41 am
Posted on 11/11/21 at 10:41 am
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November 11, 1941 Joe DiMaggio wins the American League Most Valuable Player award for the second time in his career. The Yankee Clipper edges Ted Williams, who hit .406 this season when a writer leaves the Red Sox right-fielder off the ballot.
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Posted on 11/11/21 at 11:00 am to blueridgeTiger
Screwjob to the extreme.
Williams led the AL in runs, HR, walks, AVG, OBP, SLG, and OPS.
I know they didn't care about the advanced stats back then, so...
135/37/120/2/.406 for Williams
122/30/125/4/.357 for DiMaggio
ETA: Also more evidence that baseball writers being complete dickheads is nothing new.
Williams led the AL in runs, HR, walks, AVG, OBP, SLG, and OPS.
I know they didn't care about the advanced stats back then, so...
135/37/120/2/.406 for Williams
122/30/125/4/.357 for DiMaggio
ETA: Also more evidence that baseball writers being complete dickheads is nothing new.
This post was edited on 11/11/21 at 11:01 am
Posted on 11/11/21 at 11:33 am to blueridgeTiger
That wasn't even the worse for Williams, he won the Triple Crown twice and wasn't MVP either year.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 1:13 pm to blueridgeTiger
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when a writer leaves the Red Sox right-fielder off the ballot.
This part is misleading, though. DiMaggio was a good bit ahead of Williams in the voting overall, including 15 first place votes to 8 for Williams. One dickhead voter leaving Williams off completely didn't make the difference.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 1:17 pm to LSUBoo
I guess we’re forgetting that DiMaggio had a 56 game and then a went on another one so basically 1 game out of 74 he didn’t have a hit.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 1:40 pm to sms151t
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I guess we’re forgetting that DiMaggio had a 56 game and then a went on another one so basically 1 game out of 74 he didn’t have a hit.
Nah, but I'd assume the fact that the Yankees won the AL Pennant by 17 games with a 101-53-2 record and then dusted the Dodgers in the WS in 5 games might have had a bit to do with it as well.
Plus, Ted was in his third year. DiMaggio was in his 6th, already had an MVP under his belt, and already had 4 WS rings to his name. DiMaggio was as big a name as there was in sports in 1941.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 2:36 pm to GeauxTigerTM
MVP voting is before postseason play... or at least it is now, but regular season dominance absolutely factored in.
And DiMaggio had a phenomenal year, Williams was just better.
And DiMaggio had a phenomenal year, Williams was just better.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 3:50 pm to sms151t
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I guess we’re forgetting that DiMaggio had a 56 game
From the day the streak started to the day it ended, Williams had a better average, more xbase hits, and runs scored the Joe D.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 4:40 pm to LSUBoo
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ETA: Also more evidence that baseball writers being complete dickheads is nothing new.
Yep. And this current crop is probably worse.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 6:01 pm to LSUBoo
Ted lost the MVP to Dimaggio in ‘47 when Ted won the Triple Crown
That’s when Ted lost by a single point
Sportswriters ranked their MVP 1-10 giving 10 pts for 1st, 9 for 2nd, etc
Col Dave Egan, a Boston writer left Ted off his ballot
Had he just put him 10th, they would have been co-MVP
That’s when Ted lost by a single point
Sportswriters ranked their MVP 1-10 giving 10 pts for 1st, 9 for 2nd, etc
Col Dave Egan, a Boston writer left Ted off his ballot
Had he just put him 10th, they would have been co-MVP
Posted on 11/11/21 at 6:37 pm to blueridgeTiger
Joe deserved it with a 56 game hitting streak. No one has even come close. 44 games with Rose is the closest anyone has gotten and people get excited when someone gets a 20 game hitting streak.
Ted Williams was a great hitter, but the MVP is about making a contribution to the team's success. It is not a player of the year award. If you read the fine print on the MVP award it's about making the greatest contribution to the teams' success and not about piling up stats.
Ted Williams was a great hitter, but the MVP is about making a contribution to the team's success. It is not a player of the year award. If you read the fine print on the MVP award it's about making the greatest contribution to the teams' success and not about piling up stats.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 7:03 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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but the MVP is about making a contribution to the team's success. It is not a player of the year award. If you read the fine print on the MVP award it's about making the greatest contribution to the teams' success and not about piling up stats.
All of this is wrong, FYI.
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