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"The Worst Rule in Football" still needs to be changed.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:20 pm
We must not lose sight of the need to change this rule. The NFL has even admitted recently that there is merit to changing the touchback rule when fumbled through the endzone with no recovery.
The defense doesnt get the turnover anywhere else on the field unless they recover it. Why should their own endzone be this magic turnover territory. SO SO DUMB.
The defense doesnt get the turnover anywhere else on the field unless they recover it. Why should their own endzone be this magic turnover territory. SO SO DUMB.
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:23 pm to Brightside Bengal
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"The Worst Rule in Football" still needs to be changed.
Absolutely.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:26 pm to Brightside Bengal
There are a lot of really dumb football rules related to the end zone.
The touchback fumble rule like you mentioned.
The different standards for running the ball across vs catching it in the end zone.
"Half the distance to the goal" on penalties
The touchback fumble rule like you mentioned.
The different standards for running the ball across vs catching it in the end zone.
"Half the distance to the goal" on penalties
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:33 pm to Brightside Bengal
We should get rid of touchbacks altogether using your logic.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:37 pm to Eighteen
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"Half the distance to the goal" on penalties
Erm, that is legit. A holding call on the 4 yard line shouldn't result in a safety.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:41 pm to Volmanac
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We should get rid of touchbacks altogether using your logic
Wrong. The defense would have to recover the ball (in bounds) in their own endzone to achieve a touchback. Otherwise, the ball should be spotted at the point of the fumble if there is no recovery.
The logic of "well the offense shouldnt fumble" doesnt hold water because they are not held to that standard for any of the other 100 yards.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:42 pm to Rich Kotite
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Erm, that is legit. A holding call on the 4 yard line shouldn't result in a safety.
But it should still back them up to the 1 inch line. Why half the distance?
In your example, team on own 4 yard line commits 5 yard penalty ball goes back to the 2. Next play, defensive team gets a 5 yard penalty and the ball move all the way up to the 7.
Dumb.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:56 pm to Eighteen
A yard and a half isn't that big of a difference. If the defense jumps offsides it still moves outside the 5. I just think there are more important rules that need adjusting.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:00 am to Brightside Bengal
What else are you gonna do with it?
where are you gonna put it?
Endzones have higher consequences
makes senses to me.
where are you gonna put it?
Endzones have higher consequences
makes senses to me.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:04 am to Rich Kotite
It may be small, but it's still dumb. It works in reverse, too.
Team A is driving to end zone and ball is on the 14, defensive team commits a 15 yard personal foul. Instead of going to the goal line, the ball only moves up to the 7.
The next play, the offensive team gets a holding call for a 10 yard penalty and the ball is moved back to the 17.
I just want it explained WHY half the distance and not the full distance (up to the endzone, obviously) like everywhere else on the field.
Because to take it a step further, they do use common sense when the penalty is pass interference in the endzone. Then it magically doesn't become half the distance but instead goes up to the 1 yard line.
Team A is driving to end zone and ball is on the 14, defensive team commits a 15 yard personal foul. Instead of going to the goal line, the ball only moves up to the 7.
The next play, the offensive team gets a holding call for a 10 yard penalty and the ball is moved back to the 17.
I just want it explained WHY half the distance and not the full distance (up to the endzone, obviously) like everywhere else on the field.
Because to take it a step further, they do use common sense when the penalty is pass interference in the endzone. Then it magically doesn't become half the distance but instead goes up to the 1 yard line.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 12:06 am
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:08 am to SammyTiger
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What else are you gonna do with it? where are you gonna put it?
Do the same as you do everywhere else on the field? Ball is marked back where player fumbled it (so in this case, the goal line)
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Endzones have higher consequences
That's the point, they shouldn't. What's wrong with keeping the rules consistent?
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 12:16 am
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:16 am to Eighteen
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That's the point, they shouldn't. What's wrong with keeping the rules consistent?
Thats just dumb. The end zone is special just as a basic rule of the game.
You go to the 25 yard line you get 0 points. You go to the end zone you get 6.
You get sacked on the 50, you lose some yards. You get sacked in your own end zone the other team gets 2 points and you have to punt.
Thats part of the game.
The rules are consistent with the fact that the end zone is different than the rest of the field.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:31 am to Brightside Bengal
I still hate the PI spot foul
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:03 am to Brightside Bengal
I actually like the rule how it is and would be upset if they changed it. I'm tired of seeing the nfl just make rule changes for no reason. I don't see a problem with how it currently is.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:28 am to Brightside Bengal
Why do offenses get a first down on 5 yard penalties, when they need 10-20 or even 30 yards to go ? That is the dumbest rule. I don't see defenses getting 4rth downs because pf a hold.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:34 am to Brightside Bengal
the touchback out the end zone rule makes sense bc when the ball is fumbled, it's nobody's ball... you can't give the offense back what they didn't have.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 6:23 am to Tuskkman
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Why do offenses get a first down on 5 yard penalties, when they need 10-20 or even 30 yards to go ? That is the dumbest rule. I don't see defenses getting 4rth downs because pf a hold.
Got to agree with you there. No reason a five yard penalty on 3rd and 30 should be an automatic first down.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 6:32 am to Brightside Bengal
I wholeheartedly disagree with you.
And it's far from the worst rule in football, who are you quoting there? Who called it that?
And it's far from the worst rule in football, who are you quoting there? Who called it that?
Posted on 10/6/15 at 6:35 am to Eighteen
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Because to take it a step further, they do use common sense when the penalty is pass interference in the endzone. Then it magically doesn't become half the distance but instead goes up to the 1 yard line.
Well that's a spot foul everywhere on the field, not just in the red zone, so I don't see how it applies with your argument
Posted on 10/6/15 at 6:46 am to chalmetteowl
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the touchback out the end zone rule makes sense bc when the ball is fumbled, it's nobody's ball... you can't give the offense back what they didn't have
Just like when they fumble it on the sidelines huh?
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