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re: The top 6 highest paid QBs in the NFL are not in the playoffs

Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:12 pm to
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10 win seasons 6/11 years. Made the playoffs 6/11 years. .500 or higher 8/11 seasons.

Brees as a saint


10 win seasons 7/13 years. Made the playoffs 7/13 years. .500 or higher 8/13 seasons.



Upperdecker, your move
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33522 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:13 pm to
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empty stats only count when you want them to?

2017 was a successful season. 2015 and 2016 were historically bad defenses. Yet Drew still contributed 7 game winning drives between those two years. Matty Ice only contributed two this year, with a better defense. Empty stats are stats that don’t help your team win. Drew contributes to team wins far more often with his stats than Matt Ryan does
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:14 pm to
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Empty stats are stats that don’t help your team win. Drew contributes to team wins far more often with his stats than Matt Ryan does
What the frick?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33522 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:14 pm to
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Upperdecker, your move

Now compare rings
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:15 pm to
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Now compare rings
Eli-2
Brees-1
Ryan-0
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33522 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:16 pm to
Eli didn’t choke like Matty Ice
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:17 pm to
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Eli didn’t choke like Matty Ice


But he has more rings than brees too

and this was Ryans choke

74%---284 yards--2tds---0 int
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 1:18 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139493 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:18 pm to
Paychecks are stupid high in all sports for the return, but I guess money is being made by everyone involved.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33522 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:18 pm to
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But he has more rings than brees too

Having consistently good defenses helps. Brees has had horrible defenses consistently

And you forgot Matt Ryan fumbling in the SB
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 1:21 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:20 pm to
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Having consistently good defenses helps. Brees has had horrible defenses consistently


You are all over the place


So wins and rings matter when determining who is better, unless they dont
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:20 pm to
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Having consistently good defenses helps. Brees has had horrible defenses consistently


So when Brees has bad seasons it's a team game and the losses aren't his fault, but not for Matt Ryan?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33522 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:22 pm to
There’s no clear objective stat for determining the best QB. That’s why it’s a debate. But the combination of stats, wins, rings can give you a pretty good idea. And Matt Ryan has consistently done less with more
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33522 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:22 pm to
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So when Brees has bad seasons it's a team game and the losses aren't his fault, but not for Matt Ryan?

Ryan has had better defenses on average
Posted by Ghazi
Dallas Mavs 2011 NBA Champions
Member since Dec 2007
16121 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:23 pm to
We already know Brees is better than Ryan though.

Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33522 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:25 pm to
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We already know Brees is better than Ryan though.

The little brother Falcons fan decided to make it a Brees vs Ryan argument
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:27 pm to
No one in here is arguing Ryan is better than Brees

We are simply showing how foolish your arguments are

You are using the literal arguments retards have used agaisnt Brees for years
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Brees has had multiple great years, statistically and in win totals and playoff performances. Matt Ryan hasn’t. He’s put up empty stats all but one year. Nice try though
10 win seasons since 2008

Brees - 6
Ryan - 6


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You earn top QB status

And yet you have Luck, Rivers, and Goff ahead of Ryan? I'd like to hear you explain that one.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 1:29 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:29 pm to
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shel311

he cant explain shite without stepping on his own dick and contradicting himself
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 1:30 pm
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:29 pm to
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Ryan has had better defenses on average


The 3 years the Falcons had losing records under Matt Ryan the Falons defense ranked:

2013 - 27th
2014 - 27th
2018 - 25th

They were also 27th the year they went to the Superbowl. Seems like the Falcons have consistently shitty defenses.

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The little brother Falcons fan decided to make it a Brees vs Ryan argument


I despise the Falcons and enjoyed the Patriots delivering the 28-3 comeback to them. Matty Ice is a little bitch and I hope he never wins anything of significance. That doesn't change the fact that he is good quarterback and the metrics you are using against him are awful.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 1:32 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:30 pm to
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The 3 years the Falcons had losing records under Matt Ryan the Falons defense ranked:

2013 - 27th
2014 - 27th
2018 - 25th

They were also 27th the year they went to the Superbowl. Seems like the Falcons have consistently shitty defenses.

The dude is just getting owned at this point
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