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re: The single most blatantly blown call you'll ever see.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:51 pm to JJ27
Posted on 11/6/13 at 3:51 pm to JJ27
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. The WR never tried to come back
you might want to go watch the play again. 8:32 4th qtr taylor turns to the ball your player runs into him causing them to fall, impeding his progress back to the ball. your player also did not turn his head either.
if he was in the air and unable to come back it would be a different story
if you want to argue the no call in the endzone, that was a bad call. the other two were not
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 3:57 pm
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:17 pm to NYCAuburn
If I grab onto a receiver and hold his arms down, he won't be able to catch the ball. Thus the ball is uncatchable, and there should be no PI call.
Am I using Auburn logic correctly?
You can't mug a receiver downfield before a ball is tipped and say it's legit. The ball was clearly in range of the LSU player. It's not like it was sailing out of bounds or clear over his head. The ball was catchable. Any comments to the contrary are ridiculous and troll attempts.
Am I using Auburn logic correctly?
You can't mug a receiver downfield before a ball is tipped and say it's legit. The ball was clearly in range of the LSU player. It's not like it was sailing out of bounds or clear over his head. The ball was catchable. Any comments to the contrary are ridiculous and troll attempts.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:24 pm to NYCAuburn
A ball in the air on the way to the receiver is not uncatchable, plain and simple.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:34 pm to TigerBait1127
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A ball in the air on the way to the receiver is not uncatchable, plain and simple.
This.
But this also brings up another interesting question. It's not the grabbing/mugging of the receiver that's a penalty. It's the location of the ball as is pertains to the receiver being interfered with.
So, if a runner is running and he is going to only gain a yard regardless of a hold, should the hold be overlooked? Should blocks in the back, holding, etc.. be called if the outcome of the play is unchanged?
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:37 pm to NYCAuburn
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you might want to go watch the play again. 8:32 4th qtr taylor turns to the ball your player runs into him causing them to fall, impeding his progress back to the ball. your player also did not turn his head either.
All of that happen as the ball was being "tipped" so it doesn't matter then b/c the ball was uncatchable, according to your logic.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:38 pm to NYCAuburn
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if you want to argue the no call in the endzone, that was a bad call.
True.
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the other two were not
You're better than this.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:40 pm to dcrews
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If I grab onto a receiver and hold his arms down, he won't be able to catch the ball. Thus the ball is uncatchable, and there should be no PI call. Am I using Auburn logic correctly? .
Well if you want to respond like a child, I can change replies to treat you as such
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You can't mug a receiver downfield before a ball is tipped and say it's legit
If the ball is uncatchable, interfering with the receiver doesn't matter plain and simple. This is in the very definition of the rule for pi.
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You can't mug a receiver downfield before a ball is tipped and say it's legit. The ball was clearly in range of the LSU player.
The player was already in the air prior to contact, he was not able to change direction mid air to come back towards the ball
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The ball was catchable
Except it was tipped
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Any comments to the contrary are ridiculous and troll attempts
So comments that coincide with ncaa rules are ridiculous or a troll
If your player was still on the ground and able to change directions to come back to the ball or not tipped, it would have been pi.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:41 pm to TigerBait1127
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A ball in the air on the way to the receiver is not uncatchable, plain and simple.
A tipped ball out of reach of a receiver is an uncatchable ball per NCAA rules,
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:42 pm to TeddyPadillac
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All of that happen as the ball was being "tipped" so it doesn't matter then b/c the ball was uncatchable, according to your logic.
If you can't grasp the difference and this is how you interpret it, I can't help you. Might want to read up on the rule definitions.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:44 pm to NYCAuburn
The PI happened before the tip. It was at least holding.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:45 pm to dcrews
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The worst ever is Oklahoma at Oregon onside kick. Oregon never had the ball and the refs gave it to them. Cost OU the game.
This is my answer. Here's the video. With the others it was either a judgment call or a brain fart. With this one, they had four different ways to call it right and missed on all of them:
1. Initial play, touched inside 10 yards by Oregon
2. Initial play, recovered by Oklahoma
3. Review, touched inside 10 yards by Oregon
4. Review, clear recovery by Oklahoma
ETA: That Oklahoma team would have been in the discussion for a BCS CG appearance too; they would have been 11-1 with a similar resume to Florida and Michigan.
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:46 pm to MetArl15
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The PI happened before the tip. It was at least holding.
I've explained this already, please go read the rules. You can't have holding after the ball has crossed the neutral zone.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:50 pm to NYCAuburn
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A tipped ball out of reach of a receiver is an uncatchable ball per NCAA rules,
link it. The ball became uncacthable well after the interference occurs. That doesn't make any sense
Once again, LSU gets the ball on the interception if that isn't the case.
Let's not forget the hold on a 40 yard gain by LSU with a guy with 2 completely wrapped hands or the reversed LSU first down, or the interference in the endzone, etc
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:52 pm to auzach91
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Idk when it was but the lsu player getting pushed to the ground right infront of the ref vs Alabama and he returned it for a TD.
that never happened, but Webster did push him to the ground
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:57 pm to NYCAuburn
j. Tackling or grasping a receiver or any other intentional contact before he
touches the pass is evidence that the tackler is disregarding the ball and is
therefore illegal.
k. Tackling or running into a receiver when a forward pass obviously is
underthrown or overthrown is disregarding the ball and is illegal. This is not
pass interference but a violation of Rule 9-1-12-a, which carries a penalty of
15 yards from the previous spot plus a first down. Flagrant offenders shall
be disqualified
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:59 pm to TigerBait1127
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Once again, LSU gets the ball on the interception if that isn't the case.
No your player impeded the auburn player from coming back to the ball and also did not turn his head. The difference being your player could not return to the ball because he was in mid air and the ball became out of reach and uncatchable because of the tip.
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Let's not forget the hold on a 40 yard gain by LSU with a guy with 2 completely wrapped hands or the reversed LSU first down, or the interference in the endzone, etc
Oh please, do you really think LSU didn't have calls or non calls not go their way as well
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link it.
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Defensive players legally may contact opponents who have crossed the neutral zone if the opponents are not in a position to receive a catchable forward pass.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 5:01 pm to NYCAuburn
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The difference being your player could not return to the ball because he was in mid air and the ball became out of reach and uncatchable because of the tip.
contact occurred before he was in the air
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 11/6/13 at 5:01 pm to TigerBait1127
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The single most blatantly blown call you'll ever see. j. Tackling or grasping a receiver or any other intentional contact before he touches the pass is evidence that the tackler is disregarding the ball and is therefore illegal. k. Tackling or running into a receiver when a forward pass obviously is underthrown or overthrown is disregarding the ball and is illegal. This is not pass interference but a violation of Rule 9-1-12-a, which carries a penalty of 15 yards from the previous spot plus a first down. Flagrant offenders shall be disqualified
These would be the case had the ball not been tipped.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 5:02 pm to NYCAuburn
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These would be the case had the ball not been tipped.
tipping the ball AFTER the foul occurs doesn't negate the foul.
and they actually threw the flag, the official called the penalty, then later changed it
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 11/6/13 at 5:04 pm to TigerBait1127
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contact occurred before he was in the air
No it did not, you player jumped then was hit by Gilbert. Doucet could not have come back towards the ball and the tip both made the ball uncatchable by definition.
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