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Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:31 pm to lsupride87
i dont understand how people can be this outraged on the call when Turner clearly couldve avoided the potential of that being called by just running in the running lane at any point
i guess everyone wants to bitch, but its really as simple as if turner was in the running lane there is no way he gets called for interference
i guess everyone wants to bitch, but its really as simple as if turner was in the running lane there is no way he gets called for interference
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:32 pm to sgallo3
quote:Turner was literally striding in the middle of the bag when he made contact
but its really as simple as if turner was in the running lane there is no way he gets called for interference
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:32 pm to lsupride87
The “intentional” part gives leeway to make it subjective given that qualifier inherently requires some assessment of “intent.” It was dumb to call that on the umpire’s part, he was likely at least subconsciously influenced by the glove flying around.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:33 pm to lsupride87
That’s not the running lane, which is why the rule is controversial and has been for ages.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:34 pm to Lou Pai
quote:Correct
The “intentional” part gives leeway to make it subjective given that qualifier inherently requires some assessment of “intent.” It was dumb to call that on the umpire’s part, he was likely at least subconsciously influenced by the glove flying around.
The rule is written to stop what Arod did in the World Series where he slapped the first baseman’s glove
The ump simply got tonight’s call wrong. It happens. It was a bang bang play and live it kinda looked like it may have been intentional
The crime, is this not being at least reviewable, and Torre doubling down and saying the call was correct
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:37 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Turner was literally striding in the middle of the bag when he made contact
That is true, but he was inside the running lane basically the entire way to first base, which I guess caused the ump to make a bad judgement call
However, I’ve seen multiple ex players and analysts on tv over the last 30 minutes say it was the right call and some say it was wrong call
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:37 pm to Lou Pai
quote:I have not seen a right handed batter run on the outside of the line in the lane
That’s not the running lane, which is why the rule is controversial and has been for ages.
It would be awkward as hell to take that route as a righty
For example
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:38 pm to sgallo3
quote:
i dont understand how people can be this outraged on the call when Turner clearly couldve avoided the potential of that being called by just running in the running lane at any point
The bag is outside of the lane so there is an exception in the rule that allows the runner to come out of the lane to touch the bag.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:39 pm to lsupride87
The gif that someone posted really shows Turner hugging the shite out of the IF grass up to about 3/4 of the way though but that happens all the time and rarely gets called. The still shot of his foot hitting the bag is pretty useless and basically meaningless because it doesn’t show the context of what was happening with Gurriel, regardless of how goofy he was playing, and how bad the throw was. I know I’m incredibly biased, but with the glove flying and the fact that he was running way more biased to the grass than not for most of the play, I can see why the ump did what he did. I still don’t like the call and it wouldn’t have sat right if we won Game 6 in a close one.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:41 pm to lsupride87
Yeah it happens all the time as it should. Why would a runner take that extra step to get wide?
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:42 pm to Lou Pai
quote:I fault the Ump the least in everything
The gif that someone posted really shows Turner hugging the shite out of the IF grass up to about 3/4 of the way though but that happens all the time and rarely gets called. The still shot of his foot hitting the bag is pretty useless and basically meaningless because it doesn’t show the context of what was happening with Gurriel, regardless of how goofy he was playing, and how bad the throw was. I know I’m incredibly biased, but with the glove flying and the fact that he was running way more biased to the grass than not for most of the play, I can see why the ump did what he did. I still don’t like the call and it wouldn’t have sat right if we won Game 6 in a close one.
It not being reciewable, Torre’s statement on it, and the ridiculous delay were more egregious
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:42 pm to Lou Pai
quote:A righty would have to run at an angle to the right, just to then have to come back left at the bag
Yeah it happens all the time as it should. Why would a runner take that extra step to get wide?
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:44 pm to lsupride87
quote:
The nfl didn’t back the refs in the nfc champ game
torre was stupid to take the interview right after the game. get with the league and just come out with the typical canned statement tomorrow.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:48 pm to UNO
quote:it’s about time to put him out to pasture. Dude is like 80 years old
torre
Posted on 10/30/19 at 12:20 am to KosmoCramer
quote:
The fielder actually interfered with the runner while the runner was in a legal position.
runner in legal position; oh boy quote:
Fielders have a right to occupy any space needed to catch or field a batted ball and also must not be hindered while attempting to field a thrown ball.
The ignorant should also watch the video in this link if you think a runner has legal position.
LINK
Posted on 10/30/19 at 12:52 am to jeff5891
quote:
When running the last half of the way to first base while the ball is being fielded in the vicinity of first, a baserunner must stay within the three-foot runner's lane to the right of the foul line unless they are avoiding a player fielding a batted ball
He did.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 4:57 am to Adam Banks
quote:
hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not.
This was not a batted ball - so that rule doesn't apply.
There is a rule that prevents a runner to first base from being inside the field of play for the last 2/3 of the way to 1st base when the play is coming from behind him.
Unless they have changed it
You cannot obstruct the throw to first baseman in the field of play - you must be in foul territory in that instance.
I don[t understand the confusion over this - it was CLEARLY interference..
HAVE THEY CHANGED THAT RULE??????
Posted on 10/30/19 at 5:01 am to PaperTiger
quote:
quote:
When running the last half of the way to first base while the ball is being fielded in the vicinity of first, a baserunner must stay within the three-foot runner's lane to the right of the foul line unless they are avoiding a player fielding a batted ball
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OK - so the rule has not changed. -
quote:
He did
What the hell are you watching?? = the runner was NEVER in foul territory = "to the right of the foul line. He was ENTIRELY in the field of play - even on the grass at times - intentionally tying to interfere with the play.
People arguing about this must be stupid.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 5:31 am to ChineseBandit58
People don't seem to understand the runner establishes a "base path" to every base except for first base. The second line is there for a reason. If he ran within those lines until the bag, they would have a better case.
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