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re: The real Rocky on ESPN.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:01 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:01 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
Now we know why The Expendables was made.
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:01 pm to DP40
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Stallone is a piece of shite...copied Wepner and still denies it.
This
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:03 pm to Deactived
I don't know what they settled for, but he was seeking 15 million.
Maybe 5-9 million range? Who knows..
Maybe 5-9 million range? Who knows..
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:03 pm to Jamohn
Once he used, his name to promote the film, it became fair game, IMHO
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:04 pm to Jamohn
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Ehhh. I don't know about that. Just because Chuck's fight "inspired" Stallone to write Rocky doesn't mean he owes Wepner anything. He never used Wepner's likeness to promote the fight (not that it would have helped). It takes a lot to make a quality film. I think it's quite a stretch to say Wepner played a huge role in it. He got paid for fighting Ali. That's what he did. It was on display and open to the public. Stallone drew an inspiration from it. You don't hear Ali whining about wanting to be compensated for inspiring Apollo Creed.
Just because Wepner's fallen on hard times and we feel bad for him doesn't mean he's entitled to compensation from Stallone.
Agree. He definitely inspired Stallone to make Rocky but Chuck and his friends assertion that he is Rocky is a giant overstatement. If Stallone were a real dick he would have countersued Wepner for using Rocky to promote himself.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:05 pm to Jamohn
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Just because Wepner's fallen on hard times and we feel bad for him doesn't mean he's entitled to compensation from Stallone.
I guess you missed the early part when the lawyer explained the law(s) about using likeness or whatever the term used.
Regardless, Stallone could have stepped early and paid him on his on especially after using the wrestling scene in movie 3.
"Hey, man. Can I use this in a movie? I'll pay up."
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:07 pm to DP40
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Regardless, Stallone could have stepped early and paid him on his on especially after using the wrestling scene in movie 3.
"Hey, man. Can I use this in a movie? I'll pay up."
Highly doubt Wepner was the 1st washed up boxer to fight a wrestler. If I make a movie about football and have the star QB go to jail for dogfighting I won't have to pay Mike Vick.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:07 pm to Jamohn
You should have paid him Sly.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:11 pm to guttata
initially I could see the arguement for sly......but after the third with the fight against the wrestler it was blatant.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:16 pm to lsu31always
quote:I don't know that he ever used Wepner's name or likeness to promote the film. If anything, that film did more to promote Wepner. I could see if he had used his name or likeness anywhere, but I've never seen a single poster for Rocky where Wepner is mentioned anywhere.
Once he used, his name to promote the film, it became fair game, IMHO
I'm aware of law on the issue. You heard Wepner's attorney explain his side of the argument in a manner that made it sound favorable to his client.
Remember that a settlement is not an admission of guilt. Companies settle all the time as a calculated move--factoring in the likelihood of losing a trial plus the cost of litigation.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:18 pm to Jamohn
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You heard Wepner's attorney explain his side of the argument in a manner that made it sound favorable to his client.
well yea.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:19 pm to saintsfan22
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Highly doubt Wepner was the 1st washed up boxer to fight a wrestler. If I make a movie about football and have the star QB go to jail for dogfighting I won't have to pay Mike Vick.
Apparently the law states you are wrong. Wepner got paid after the courts sided with him over and over. Then settlement.
Yep, you would end up paying Vick.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:20 pm to tylercsbn9
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initially I could see the arguement for sly......but after the third with the fight against the wrestler it was blatant.
Yup.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:23 pm to saintsfan22
quote:don't know what year it was, but Ali fought that famous japanese wrestler back in the day
Highly doubt Wepner was the 1st washed up boxer to fight a wrestler.
eta: LINK
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:38 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
I wonder how much Wepner ended up getting from Syl
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:58 pm to DP40
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Wepner got paid after the courts sided with him over and over. Then settlement.
Courts didn't side with him they just settled.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 9:02 pm to saintsfan22
Courts sided with Wepner over Stallone in case getting thrown out....led to settlement.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 9:04 pm to DP40
quote:Doesn't mean anything regarding the merits of the actual case.
Courts sided with Wepner over Stallone in case getting thrown out....led to settlement.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 9:24 pm to Jamohn
Yea he just won a motion Wepner would be the biggest moron on the planet if he won the case in court and then settled.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 9:30 pm to saintsfan22
I didn't watch the documentary, but didn't they fight in 1975? Rocky came out the next year....that would've been a quick copy if Sly wrote, filmed, directed, and produced Rocky after watching Hepner's fight just the year before.
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