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re: The only thing that saved Dabo from Clemsoning was Brent Venebles
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:10 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:10 pm to KosmoCramer
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The wheels are falling off bigly
So they lose to a team that’s currently top 5 and some peoples projected playoff champion - with a chance to win it at the end of the- and then lose on a 55 yard FG against a GT team they some projected to win 10 games and go to the ACC CG - and the wheels are falling off?
Sure - Clemson has no doubt been a disappointment this year. They are not a national championship team/contender. But they could still make a run and make it to the playoffs.
Now, if Clemson loses to Syracuse, UNC, or NCState in the coming weeks, that’s when you can say the wheels are starting to come off.
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:53 pm to KosmoCramer
IDK, they were saying the same last year and he still won the ACC, but lost 4 games total....so I really thought before our game they were definitely being overhyped. I think they are top-heavy on talent but not deep and across the board.
Ga. Tech is a good team. I think they might lose to Fla. St. but I could see them winning the rest of their games and ending the season with the same record they had last year.
Ga. Tech is a good team. I think they might lose to Fla. St. but I could see them winning the rest of their games and ending the season with the same record they had last year.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:58 pm to KosmoCramer
But that's offset by having Jeff Scott and Chad Morris running the offense.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 5:45 pm to ShakeandBake
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Some major program will coming looking for him soon. He’s done an impressive job at Tech.
He’s at his Alma Mater. GT has relatively deep pockets and are in a great location for NIL if they decide to play the game.
Getting a guy out of their own school isn’t easy.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 5:48 pm to Dadren
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They also used to have dudes on defense. They’re not completely lacking talent but gone are the days when they were loaded with future NFL dudes in the front seven.
It’s a bunch of things. Venebles is a part of it but it’s defensive talent and QB also. Dabo’s had some good fortune to help him along over the past decade.
Completely agree.
I don’t think you can point to one thing or person. They still have talented players and coaches but just aren’t as good anywhere as they were at their peak.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 7:16 pm to Tiger Ugly
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Ga. Tech is a good team. I think they might lose to Fla. St. but I could see them winning the rest of their games and ending the season with the same record they had last year.
GT doesn’t play FSU this year unless it’s in ACCCG or playoffs.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:31 am to Dick Jacket
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GT doesn’t play FSU this year unless it’s in ACCCG or playoffs.
I was speaking of Clemson playing FSU not GT, sorry I did not phrase it clearly.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:46 am to Jack Ruby
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Brent Key is also coaching circles around the rest of that league right now.
Bingo.
Tech would be wise to pay up but he's not going anywhere.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 6:49 am
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:48 am to ShakeandBake
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Brent Key
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Some major program will coming looking for him soon. He’s done an impressive job at Tech.
He ain't leaving Tech. He's at his alma mater.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:22 am to Dadren
huh? they have 3 projected 1st rounders in the front 7.
there problem is they can fricking score. they dont have the running backs and oline that they did.
there problem is they can fricking score. they dont have the running backs and oline that they did.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:25 am to Globetrotter747
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I don’t think you can point to one thing or person. They still have talented players and coaches but just aren’t as good anywhere as they were at their peak.
Agreed, I think there were several folks here who called out the over-hype before the season for a 4-loss team that really didn't beat anyone of consequence last year. They are good, but not top-5 and should never have been ranked there.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:47 am to Lexis Dad
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He ain't leaving Tech. He's at his alma mater.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:08 am to RolltidePA
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He’s at his Alma Mater. GT has relatively deep pockets and are in a great location for NIL if they decide to play the game.
Getting a guy out of their own school isn’t easy.
Coaches don’t give a shite about coaching at their alma mater. They want to make money and win games. Wherever they can do that the best is where they’re going to be.
It’s just like fans would rather win with some coach who’s never even been on campus before than lose with an alumnus. Do you think Alabama fans were devastated over firing Mike Shula and hiring Nick Saban? frick no. And that’s how it’s going to be for Keys if he keeps winning and one of the big boys throws a bunch of money at him to leave GT. Adios!
The coach / program dynamic only works if there’s balance. If a coach significantly overachieves with the program’s resources, he will leave. If he significantly underachieves, he will be fired. And neither the coach nor the program will make their decision based on diplomas and who led a winning TD drive over Rival U. thirty years ago.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:35 am to YStar
you went stupid on the 1st post, then doubled down and went full retard......you never go full retard
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:36 am to Globetrotter747
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Coaches don’t give a shite about coaching at their alma mater. They want to make money and win games. Wherever they can do that the best is where they’re going to be.
Name all the head coaches that have left their Alma Mater directly for another college HC job.
A lot of coaches have left good jobs to take over the job at their Alma Mater, like Mario Christobal, but I can't think of a single one bailing directly for another college HC role.
Maybe I'm missing someone at a small school. Sure, some guys like Shula get fired at their Alma Mater, or like Spurrier try the NFL and end up at another school a some point, but thats not anywhere near the same thing.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:09 am to RolltidePA
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Name all the head coaches that have left their Alma Mater directly for another college HC job.
In nearly all cases, at least that we pay attention to, the alma mater job is already top tier and there’s not a significant step up. Where’s Kirby going? Where were DuBose, Shula, Frost, Fulmer, Spurrier, etc., going? Coaches moving from one top 10-15 job to another isn’t that common regardless of ties.
You see it more in the assistant ranks where there’s more coaches and more room on the ladder. Auburn-Alabama is arguably the fiercest rivalry in CFB and plenty of people have played and/or coached for both programs.
There are plenty of people in all professions who forgo higher ambitions for the sake of comfort or stability. But those who want maximum achievement aren’t staying anywhere for sentimental reasons.
GT is not a top tier job. If Key continues to overachieve, wants greater glory, and one of the top programs wants him, he will leave.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:19 am to KosmoCramer
quote:It’s not a shite show (yet) like we’ve seen with other big programs in the past that completely nose dive. They’ve lost to LSU with a chance to tie with the ball at the LSU 15 yd line with over a minute to go. Lost to a good Ga Tech team in the final seconds on a 55 yd kick. Dabo does a good job of keeping his teams together. He’s always been best when playing the underdog card and now they are underdogs.
The wheels are falling off bigly
I’m in no way saying they are great but don’t be surprised if they keep the wheels on the remaining games of the season.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 11:47 am
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:26 am to Globetrotter747
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In nearly all cases, at least that we pay attention to, the alma mater job is already top tier and there’s not a significant step up. Where’s Kirby going? Where were DuBose, Shula, Frost, Fulmer, Spurrier, etc., going? Coaches moving from one top 10-15 job to another isn’t that common regardless of ties
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There are plenty of people in all professions who forgo higher ambitions for the sake of comfort or stability. But those who want maximum achievement aren’t staying anywhere for sentimental reasons.
Oddly enough, I did think of one. Rich Rodriguez left WVU for Michigan. Other than that, I can't think of another example. What you're saying makes sense, but the reality is that someone leaving their Alma Mater for another college HC role is extraordinarily rare. So rare that football fans that are willing to spend time on a message board can only think of one instance of it happening.
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GT is not a top tier job. If Key continues to overachieve, wants greater glory, and one of the top programs wants him, he will leave.
Bama was a crap job when Saban took it over. If Key does well, GT may just decide to go for it with him. They don't lack funding. You don't have to be at a big program anymore to find success, matter of fact with the new playoff format, you may be better off winning in the ACC where the competition isn't as burtal as the SEC and Big 10.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 11:28 am
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:59 am to KosmoCramer
They had arguably the best defensive front in college football for a period of time. They sent a ton of players to the NFL. He’s never recovered from Veneables leaving, and he refuses to adapt to the new climate in college football. He’s quickly becoming a dinosaur like Les Miles did.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 12:03 pm to RolltidePA
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Oddly enough, I did think of one. Rich Rodriguez left WVU for Michigan. Other than that, I can't think of another example.
And Michigan is obviously a better program.
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What you're saying makes sense, but the reality is that someone leaving their Alma Mater for another college HC role is extraordinarily rare.
But how often do you see a coach who’s already successful at top 10-15 program (all-time) with top pay and national championship potential leave to go anywhere? Alma mater or not, you typically have to have something more to offer to justify movement.
If you pay somebody a lot more money and/or offer significantly better resources to fulfill their professional ambitions, they aren’t staying somewhere just because it’s their alma mater.
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Bama was a crap job when Saban took it over
It was not a crappy job. It had just had crappy coaches. Rebuilding a program with potential is a draw to a lot of coaches.
You mentioned Cristobal going to Miami. Miami has won five national titles (close to several others) and dominated CFB at times like few programs have. He’s resurrected a program that had potential and Miami looks about as good as anyone right now.
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You don't have to be at a big program anymore to find success, matter of fact with the new playoff format, you may be better off winning in the ACC where the competition isn't as burtal as the SEC and Big 10.
If Key wants to win a national championship and doesn’t think he can do it at GT, he will eventually leave for a place that can if he has the opportunity.
Coaches and players sacrificing their personal ambitions for their school is a fan fantasy. They will opt for something better just as quickly as you will want to fire or bench them for something better.
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