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re: The MJ Lebron comparison cracks me up
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:22 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:22 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
I find the OP ridiculous because no amount of talent can make someone MJ.
LaBron has historical talent.
MJ was touched by God.
There will never be another combination of talent and intangibles like MJ. Never.
LaBron has historical talent.
MJ was touched by God.
There will never be another combination of talent and intangibles like MJ. Never.
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Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it's not like people picked that sample and ran with it
That's exactly what happened.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:24 pm to mattz1122
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it's not like people picked that sample and ran with it
That's exactly what happened.
Well I sure missed it.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:24 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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Lebron James has more MVPs and NBA Finals appearances than MJ did at 26. H
LeBron had a three year head start in the NBA.So the age factor doesn't equate.When Jordan was 18 years old he was winning a NCAA title,not playing the NBA with a $100 million check from Nike.
In season number eight for LeBron(aka right now)
2 MVPs
0-2 in finals
Jordan in year 8:84-85 to 91-92
3 MVPS(and Defensive Player of the Year)
2-0 in finals
2 Finals MVP
more individual awards more titles.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:25 pm to nvasil1
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WTF does age have to do with anything? Lebron had a 3 year head start in the league compared to MJ.
This is such common sense, that I can't believe anyone would argue against it...
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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which means his early developmental period was in the NBA and not college. i don't see the point
NBA isn't about development. Come on Slow.
Once you're in the league, you're in the league. Be ready for the comparisons .... the stats.
He's had more years in the league than MJ at this point and has no ring to show for it.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well most nba development goes along the same arc, by age
no it goes by years in the league and miles on your legs....so if you don't see point it's because you are closing your eyes.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:26 pm to mattz1122
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That's exactly what happened.
lebron's hype has been that big for 3-4 years now
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:26 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:It actually makes a big difference
NBA isn't about development. Come on Slow.
Once you're in the league, you're in the league.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:27 pm to LaBornNRaised
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That does not put him in a league with MJ who IMO is the best player to ever live. Maybe when it's all said and done but the comparisons now are meritless and will continue to be until the very near future
Never once in my life have I stated that Lebron is better than Jordan. Jordan was and still is my favorite player of all time and the greatest without any doubt. My argument is for people saying he sucks which is just asinine. He IS one of the best players that the league has ever seen, and has the potential to be one of the top 3-5 by the time his career ends, which is gonna be awhile. I believe that he may be able to pass Jordan one day or at least create an argument between the two. Like I've said, we haven't even seen his best yet imo and he's already an all time great
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:27 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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NBA isn't about development.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
You meant JUST that sample? Well, no. But his performance in that serious is what triggered the over-the-top knee-jerk influx of MJ comparisons and top-2 rankings.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:28 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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NBA isn't about development.
yes it is, esp with guys who enter at 18/19
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Once you're in the league, you're in the league.
that doesn't mean lebron was close to being at his apex his first 2-3 years in the league
he had to develop, just like jordan did
lebron did it in the NBA while jordan was at UNC
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:29 pm to Louie T
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It actually makes a big difference
If you think timid, pass the ball Lebron is afraid of the spotlight now .. i can assure you he won't be all confidence in two years.
MJ was taking game winning shots as a freshman at UNC.
At least Kobe was shooting air balls from downtown, Lebron won't even shoot.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:29 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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GeorgeTheGreek
So where exactly did Lebron develop?
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:30 pm to mattz1122
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But his performance in that serious is what triggered the over-the-top knee-jerk influx of MJ comparisons and top-2 rankings.
mainly b/c people said he couldn't close in playoff games and make shots late (esp jumpers)
people have this standard for lebron that is above any player since shaq. when he meets that standard, the comparisons begin
lebon's career is actually going similarly to shaq's career in terms of public perception. does anybody remember shaq being crucified for that comment about never winning a title in high school or college?
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:31 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
If you don't think jumping straight to the league instead of a stop at college doesn't put you a little behind the curve, idk what to tell you.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:32 pm to Louie T
It does, however, you can't use it as an excuse. NBA stats don't have an asterisk b/c you came from high school. In the same amount of years in the league, Lebron has less to show for than Michael.
This post was edited on 6/12/11 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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people have this standard for lebron that is above any player since shaq. when he meets that standard, the comparisons begin
Thank you!
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:33 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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you can't use it as an excuse.
nobody is making excuses
we're discussing how to compare players from different eras
age is better
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. In the same amount of years, Lebron has less to show for than Michael.
and if that was a better measure of comparison than age, it would mean more
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