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re: The MJ Lebron comparison cracks me up
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
ECFs aren't what solidifies legendary status. That shouldn't come as a surprise.
Jordan is memorable for holding his pose against the Jazz and jumping up and down after hitting a game winner vs the Cavs. For being clutch.
Jordan is memorable for holding his pose against the Jazz and jumping up and down after hitting a game winner vs the Cavs. For being clutch.
This post was edited on 6/12/11 at 11:15 pm
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Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:04 pm to shel311
Yeah, I'm not buying that either. He never really gave his true opinion of what happened in the Boston series last year either. I would love for him to disclose everything that he knows
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
no one remembers who took over the conference semi finals in ten years, brah .. come on ..
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:05 pm to c on z
chad ford did a huge analysis of this very argument in the early 00s. he had always said it, and then finally he broke it all down
the results were exactly what i'm describing. i've been arguing this for seriously at least a decade, but people refuse to look at it objectively
the results were exactly what i'm describing. i've been arguing this for seriously at least a decade, but people refuse to look at it objectively
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:05 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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They improve faster, but they also wear out more quickly than those who spent time in college. Lebron will not being playing into his mid thirties.
Jason Kidd is playing in his late 30s coming out of college and Kevin Garnett is playing in his mid 30s coming out of HS.
Not sure if this is a great argument.
This post was edited on 6/12/11 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:06 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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They improve faster, but they also wear out more quickly than those who spent time in college.
which superstar from high school wore out that much sooner?
i mean sure, if there was a major injury (like tmac), there was a quick decline (and there are many more grant hills to make that comparison)
but kg, kobe, stephen jackson, etc haven't worn out more quickly
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:07 pm to c on z
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A good bit of HS players went to the NBA before 2003.
yeah and that status quo was developed between 95 and 03 dumbass.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:07 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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ECFs aren't what solidifies legendary status. That shouldn't come as a surprise.
but that's not what was said. these sweeping generatlizations make it seem like he NEVER has done it before in the playoffs
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:07 pm to TigahRag
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and he won't
Right, because of the lockout.
In all seriousness, nobody should be compared to MJ until they've actually matched his accomplishments. The premature comparisons cause me to get on my soapbox.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:08 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
LeBron averaged 3 points in the 4th quarter in his 6 games. Why are we still discussing this?
This post was edited on 6/12/11 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:08 pm to TigahRag
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no one remembers who took over the conference semi finals in ten years, brah .. come on ..
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:08 pm to mattz1122
quote:Absolutely. 100% agree.
This will ultimately be the case with LeBron, but I just hate the knee-jerk historical comparisons that come after every big performance. He disappointed in the Finals unlike MJ (unfair comparison for anyone), it's a blemish on his resume, but all will be forgotten if he kicks arse next year
Unfortunately most people wont have that perspective. Particualarly when it comes to Lebron
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
He's ready for the "C" in "YMCA."
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:08 pm to mattz1122
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In all seriousness, nobody should be compared to MJ until they've actually matched his accomplishments.
and lebron is the only guy in the argument right now, and his career isn't close to over...so i don't
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:15 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Nobody said that shite about Shaq. Everyone knew he had plenty of rings on the way.
Shaq was taking a lot of heat when he wasn't winning.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
lebron vs. MJ at this point is an absolutely silly comparison .. totally different variables involved .. different game .. different economic climate .. everything .. and this goes for both sides .. jordan had motivations that lebron doesn't have to contend with today money-wise .. i agree with wilbon after the game tonight .. players today just don't have the introspection to improve from season to season in the offseason today that they did two plus decades ago .. they all have their money in the bank now ..
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:18 pm to RLDSC FAN
We're past that. I thought he was talking about Shaq in Orlando.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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famous moments come at all times,but second place finishes aren't remembered as well.You know what the guy was trying to say,but you are refusing to acknowledge it.
famous moments come at all times,but second place finishes aren't remembered as well.You know what the guy was trying to say,but you are refusing to acknowledge it.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:19 pm to TigahRag
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players today just don't have the introspection to improve from season to season in the offseason today that they did two plus decades ago .
They why there are still teams out there that make drastic improvements from season to season when they draft the right player(s) or get the right type of players from free agency?
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:21 pm to c on z
he's referring to the so-called upper echelon players .. the stars of the league .. collective teams have to improve from year to year or revenue dips .. individual players with fat, guaranteed contracts don't have to improve year to year ..
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