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re: The Miami Heat: A Microcosm of what is wrong with this Country

Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:14 pm to
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The team he left in Orlando was better than the one that he went to in LA went he made the switch.


At the exact moment he signed with the Lakers yeah sure.

One would have to be purposely ignorant though to argue that the Lakers didnt have more resources to surround Shaq with championship quality players long term than the Magic.

Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:16 pm to
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You do realize the Lakers hire the best players from around the league to help Kobe win titles right?


Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Chris Mihm, and Kwame Brown were the best players in the league at one point?

Just stop posting. You are embarrassing your entire family. You keep it up, you will pay the Iron Price.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:19 pm to
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So basically, you don't have a problem with teams wanting to win championships, but you have a problem with players wanting to win championships.



Sometimes how you do things means more than what you do.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:20 pm to
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One would have to be purposely ignorant though to argue that the Lakers didnt have more resources to surround Shaq with championship quality players long term than the Magic.


The only resource the Lakers had was cash. Same as the Magic and so on and such.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:26 pm to
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In case you forgot D Wade and LBJ are great friends from team USA. You have a problem with elite players going to play with their friends.



Yeah and all the guys from The Dream Team got along well too. How many of them said frick it, let's collude in free agency?
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:27 pm to
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The only resource the Lakers had was cash. Same as the Magic and so on and such.


No the amount of money the Lakers had to spend was not the same as the Orlando Magic. It's a big difference.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88789 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:29 pm to
arse hole

I think you're leaving off some other players Kobe has had the luxury of riding to championships.

Hell when they got PG there were talks every day of him being THE best big man in the game.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:30 pm to
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How many of them said frick it, let's collude in free agency?


Pippen Barley and Olajuwon in Houston.

Kobe Shaq Malone Payton with the Lakers.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:32 pm to
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No the amount of money the Lakers had to spend was not the same as the Orlando Magic. It's a big difference.




Every team in the league has the same cap. This isn't baseball fool.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:33 pm to
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I think you're leaving off some other players Kobe has had the luxury of riding to championships.


You take Kobe off those Lakers teams and they have no titles, plain and simple.

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Hell when they got PG there were talks every day of him being THE best big man in the game.


Lol no. He has never been the best power forward or center at any point of his career.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88789 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:34 pm to
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Pippen Barley and Olajuwon in Houston. Kobe Shaq Malone Payton with the Lakers.


Popcorn?
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:34 pm to
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Every team in the league has the same cap. This isn't baseball fool.


Do you not understand that the NBA doesn't share revenue, has a soft cap that includes a luxury tax?

Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68793 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:35 pm to
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DURANTULA



Gamecockalum alter.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88789 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:36 pm to
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You take Kobe off those Lakers teams and they have no titles, plain and simple.


I agree. Take Shaq off and the same applies.

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Lol no. He has never been the best power forward or center at any point of his career.


I agree. But in no way, shape, or form did I pull that out of my arse. It was talked about almost daily back then.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92902 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:38 pm to
Dude besides LeBron the only other halfway decent player they have is Wade. If he had stayed on the Cavs I have no doubt he would still have 2 rings. If Wade and Bosh had been what they were supposed to be that would be one thing but they have not been that great at all during these playoffs.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:39 pm to
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Pippen Barley and Olajuwon in Houston.


Those guys were in their late 30's when they played together. Hakeem wasn't on TDT.

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Kobe Shaq Malone Payton with the Lakers


2 of the 4 were already there and weren't on The Dream Team. Hell only one of those guys was on the team. Payton and Malone were 35 and 40 when they signed.

Show me another time where 3 HOFes (at least potential ones) decided to join up on one NBA team in the same offseason while all 3 were in their prime.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:40 pm to
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Take Shaq off and the same applies.



They won two titles without Shaq and played for a third. Shaq has never won a title without an elite guard either.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:42 pm to
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the only other halfway decent player they have is Wade


Yeah except for Bosh being a multiple time All-Sta who was averaging like 24-12 before he came to the Heat and all.

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that great at all during these playoffs.


$5 says that I can prove that Wade played better for the Heat in these playoffs than Pippen did for the Bulls during one of their playoff title runs. Take the bet son.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16995 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:44 pm to
Late to the party but goddamn what a great OP.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88789 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:44 pm to
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They won two titles without Shaq and played for a third. Shaq has never won a title without an elite guard either.


Yeah after they changed the team around to help Kobe. They were serious dog shite after Shaq left.
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