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re: The Kawhi Question: Offensive or Defensive?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 2:13 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Posted on 6/26/17 at 2:13 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
It's either or the names are interchangeable.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 2:34 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Steph
Harden
Leonard
Posted on 6/26/17 at 2:39 pm to BowlJackson
Bron
Durant
Curry
Kawhi
Harden
Westbrook
Davis
CP3
This is how I rank the elites.
Durant
Curry
Kawhi
Harden
Westbrook
Davis
CP3
This is how I rank the elites.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:14 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Harden
Leonard
That's in order.
Take this for order:
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:15 pm to CocoLoco
The laughing was really directed at him putting Harden over Kawhi. That's just stupid.
Personally I put Kawhi over Curry because Kawhi's defense is as elite as Curry's offense, and Kawhi's offense is better than Curry's defense.
Personally I put Kawhi over Curry because Kawhi's defense is as elite as Curry's offense, and Kawhi's offense is better than Curry's defense.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:16 pm to BowlJackson
quote:But they're not equal. Elite offense is wayyyy more valuable than elite defense.
Personally I put Kawhi over Curry because Kawhi's defense is as elite as Curry's offense
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:17 pm to BowlJackson
Too bad elite offense is a lot more valuable than elite defense.
Spurs d was better when kawhi was off the court than on. You will never ever find that same scenario for an elite offensive player.
Spurs d was better when kawhi was off the court than on. You will never ever find that same scenario for an elite offensive player.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:27 pm to shel311
quote:
Elite offense is wayyyy more valuable than elite defense.
Mmm, disagree.
Also, Boom agrees with you, which greatly undermines your point
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:40 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:
Mmm, disagree.
Anyone in their right mind would take IT4 over Tony Allen, assuming equal contracts and what not. And IT4 is arguably the worst defensive player in the league.
Another way to look at it. Look at all the best 10-15 players in the league. They all have 1 thing in common, none are liabilities on offense, or below average at offense. Can't say the same about them all being good at defense.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:46 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Spurs d was better when kawhi was off the court than on. You will never ever find that same scenario for an elite offensive player.
That's a good point. Team defense can mask otherwise average defenders. You won't see that with offensive numbers.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:51 pm to TbirdSpur2010
elite defense is only good for regular season success. who wants to follow a boring team that only wins 60 games a year for 2 decades?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 3:54 pm to Winston Cup
quote:You do realize I wasn't talking about team defense, right?
elite defense is only good for regular season success. who wants to follow a boring team that only wins 60 games a year for 2 decades?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:08 pm to shel311
And I'd like to add that rim defense is a lot more valuable than perimeter D. Guys like pat bev, tony allen, etc are known as some of the top def players in the league. Yet their salary is paltry. How come? Well Bc the GMs know what shel and I have figured out. Perimeter D, even elite level, is just not nearly as valuable a skill as offense.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:09 pm to Winston Cup
quote:
elite defense is only good for regular season success.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read.
quote:
who wants to follow a boring team that only wins 60 games a year for 2 decades?
And 5 championships
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:13 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Also true.
And I'd like to add that rim defense is a lot more valuable than perimeter D. Guys like pat bev, tony allen, etc are known as some of the top def players in the league.
quote:The Boom & Shel show will be an unstoppable force once my beloved Chrissy follows me to Texas!!!
How come? Well Bc the GMs know what shel and I have figured out. Perimeter D, even elite level, is just not nearly as valuable a skill as offense.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:15 pm to Winston Cup
Still holding out a little hope for the Third & Shel show too, don't give up on that one.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:25 pm to shel311
quote:
Still holding out a little hope for the Third & Shel show too, don't give up on that one.
We may need to get the people on this who made the Mayweather/McGregor fight happen
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 4:47 pm
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