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re: The dude who beat up women at the Olympics has been told to return gold medal

Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9588 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:34 pm to
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Would you call someone who has never had a penis he? T


Was it malformed and ambiguous or a micro which an arab culture would look at as less than a man, so he was raised as female from the start hence not technically a trans due to birth certificate likely has female listed by the doctor.

I read it was the one that affects DHT and gonad differentiation but normal male puberty development can happen if allowed except for body and facial hair (Similar to the runner Caster something) or PAIS where the genitalia is partially not fully masculinized at birth.

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Many SRD5A2 mutations come from areas with high coefficients of inbreeding, including the Dominican Republic (where people with the condition are called güevedoces – "testes at twelve"),Papua New Guinea (where it is known as kwolu-aatmwol – suggesting a person's transformation "into a male thing"), and Turkey.
Posted by Lou Loomis
A pond. Ponds good for you.
Member since Mar 2025
1210 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 9:53 pm to
Doesn’t help the girls be punched in the face a bunch of times at the Olympics. Never should have happened. Stupidity on the part of the organizers.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33392 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 6:46 am to
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Would you call someone who has never had a penis he? That seems confusing and sounds a lot like the very thing most of us find ridiculous.

1) You dont know this to be factual

2) Even if a penis were never present, it still doesnt change the reality, because

3) Its the presence of HIS previously proven male chromosomes and related testosterone (via adrenal glands) that creates the bone and muscular structure that allows him to beat the hell out of girls

Its science, so . . . .
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42764 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 8:09 am to
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1) You dont know this to be factual



I am going by what was reported and what her father said. I'll take them at their word on this because it does not change anything else related to whether she should be allowed to compete versus genetic females. She shouldn't, as I have stated multiple times. But there is also no reason to say he when this is a case where she is appropriate due to physiology.

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2) Even if a penis were never present, it still doesnt change the reality, because



Why enumerate 2 and 3 since they are the same point?

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Its the presence of HIS previously proven male chromosomes and related testosterone (via adrenal glands) that creates the bone and muscular structure that allows him to beat the hell out of girls

Its science, so . . . .



Your statement is wrong, so not science. Also, elipsis are 3 dots so not grammar either

Males and females have adrenal glands, and they both produce testosterone in small amounts at the same levels. Both the testes and ovaries produce much more testosterone than the adrenal glands (yes, the ovaries produce testosterone, just not nearly as much as the testes).

Undescended testes do not produce testosterone at the levels that descended testes do, though I expect it would still provide an advantage, which is why I have stated that genetically male athletes should not be allowed to compete in female competitions.

Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33392 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Why enumerate 2 and 3 since they are the same point?

Because your insertion of the penis in this discussion meant nothing
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and they both produce testosterone in small amounts at the same levels.

Now explain (using your science words) what happens to the body of someone with a Y chromosome, and someone else without the Y chromosome, when testosterone is introduced?
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Androgen Production in Women

About 25% of androgens in women come from the adrenal glands. The chief precursors of androgens in the body are DHEA-S – almost always in the adrenal glands - DHEA and androstenedione.

These precursors are converted to testosterone and dihydrotestosterone, the active forms. Testosterone in the blood is converted to the more active form dihydrotestosterone by 5-alpha-reductase and aromatized to estradiol, an estrogen hormone

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The Testosterone Connection

Testosterone is often referred to as the "male hormone. Testosterone is a powerful hormone with a wide range of functions. Its primary responsibilities are regulating muscle mass, bone density, and weight management.

Having strong muscles is essential for daily activities, maintaining strength, and preventing injuries. Testosterone plays a pivotal part in maintaining and developing muscles for men. Testosterone levels are essential for your body's ability to build and repair muscle tissue. It stimulates the growth of muscle fibers, helping you build lean muscle and maintain a strong physique.

Even if its only 25% of your testosterone levels, the adrenal glands pack quite a punch (pun intended) when being processed by the Y chromosome as opposed to being converted to estrogen in a female
Posted by VerbalKint
Member since Jun 2017
4005 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 2:02 pm to
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She’s not a dude.

Found our trans poster
This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 2:03 pm
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