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re: The decreased interest in baseball is evident on this board
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:14 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:14 am to SlowFlowPro
I think baseball has some things that other sports cannot beat
the legends, myths...the accessibility (deluded or not, you don't have to be an Olympic caliber athlete to play), I think it is the better of all the live events...and my favorite part, it has been the most consistent across the decades.
NFL rules are crazy different than 10 years ago and those were crazy different than the rules 10 years before that and so on
soccer has a lot of activity, but almost no scoring...it will never be bigger than baseball, basketball, or football...it will never be close to any of the 3.
NHL games are underrated as a live event, at least in the northeast...haven't been to one is so many years though
the legends, myths...the accessibility (deluded or not, you don't have to be an Olympic caliber athlete to play), I think it is the better of all the live events...and my favorite part, it has been the most consistent across the decades.
NFL rules are crazy different than 10 years ago and those were crazy different than the rules 10 years before that and so on
soccer has a lot of activity, but almost no scoring...it will never be bigger than baseball, basketball, or football...it will never be close to any of the 3.
NHL games are underrated as a live event, at least in the northeast...haven't been to one is so many years though
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:19 am to DelU249
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NFL rules are crazy different than 10 years ago and those were crazy different than the rules 10 years before that
this isn't really that true. H2H hits and illegal contact are the only major rule changes, and they're the biggest rule changes since the way refs called the OL changed about 50 years ago
the NFL is different b/c coaches finally stopped being huge vaginas on offense and have gotten aggro and creative on that side of the ball
that was all starting before those rule changes, though. it just wasn't fully popular yet. the rams and the early pats title teams changed things
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soccer has a lot of activity, but almost no scoring...it will never be bigger than baseball, basketball, or football...it will never be close to any of the 3.
never say never. it has the "everyman" factor, the same help from latinos that baseball enjoys, and is slowly growing. the MLS just had a new TV deal, too. once more money starts trickling, things will grow. but like i said earlier, if this happens it will be in like 2 generations. it won't happen any time soon. that also has as much to do with the boomers dying as soccer
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 8:20 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:20 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
baseball has been around for over a century...football is the most popular sport, but really, just 20 years ago, baseball was the top American sport.
The way the NFL is weakening their core product and diluting the game, it will be ready for a 94 type downswing over the next decade or two.
baseball is never going away, but your right and I almost said the same thing last night...they're in need of Griffey like stars
then the casual fans will familiarize themselves with the Otis Nixon/moises alou level stars and it will start to grow back. I think baseball has to do something about the level of latin talent...it's too overwhelming. I feel like I'm watching a sporting event in the Dominican republic.
The way the NFL is weakening their core product and diluting the game, it will be ready for a 94 type downswing over the next decade or two.
baseball is never going away, but your right and I almost said the same thing last night...they're in need of Griffey like stars
then the casual fans will familiarize themselves with the Otis Nixon/moises alou level stars and it will start to grow back. I think baseball has to do something about the level of latin talent...it's too overwhelming. I feel like I'm watching a sporting event in the Dominican republic.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:22 am to DelU249
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but really, just 20 years ago, baseball was the top American sport.
this is categorically false
20 years ago was 1994 and football was well ahead of baseball
football has been the #1 sports since probably the 70s. old time media didn't want to agree. hell just look at your comments above
the NFL was butt fricking everything by the 90s...but if you listened to a lot of old media, you wouldn't believe it
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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20 years ago was 1994 and football was well ahead of baseball
except it wasn't, the popularity of MLB could be reflected in a number of ways, baseball cards from this era are worthless because of how many they printed because of the insane demand. Popular culture, kids movies, etc.
I'm not saying football was a dog and pony show, but baseball was the American sport in 94 right up until the strike
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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but if you listened to a lot of old media
I don't, I just remember 1994
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:28 am to DelU249
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except it wasn't, the popularity of MLB could be reflected in a number of ways, baseball cards from this era are worthless because of how many they printed because of the insane demand. Popular culture, kids movies, etc.
I'm not saying football was a dog and pony show, but baseball was the American sport in 94 right up until the strike
the WS ratings the year before/after 94 (b/c that was the strike year) are in the 15-16 range
super bowl rating for the 94 season? 41.3
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that's probably within 1.5-2.0 points of the last SB
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 8:29 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:34 am to Jcorye1
Baseball is not dead...it's just a regional sport. Unless it's the Yankees or cubs or redsox the national audience just doesn't care. If your team is in it I promise the ratings are good and interest is high
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:36 am to Cosmo
Well the Braves ATL Threads routinely go 10+ pages on random Tuesday nights so what does that tell us about the popularity?
The STL/ATL wildcard game a few years ago went something like 50+ pages
The STL/ATL wildcard game a few years ago went something like 50+ pages
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:37 am to Tiger Ryno
So there aren't fans of the sport, just fans of teams?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
the 93 world series had the Toronto fricking blue jays
the 93 super bowl had dallas and a team from new York
hardly the be all end all, and the ratings you list are incorrect (unless you really thought post strike ratings were a great way to judge baseball's popularity, when I'm telling you that's what killed it)
the 91 world series had 35 million plus viewers, and in the realm of television, of course a January NFL sporting event will outdraw an October championship event. why do you think summer is the pits for tv? The NFL was really big, not more popular than baseball, big enough to get 40 million viewers in late January, kind of like baseball consistently got 35 million viewers for the WS from the mid 80s to 91
no one is pretending baseball was ever as big as the NFL is now, nor was it light years ahead of the NFL in the early 90s, but it was bigger
the 93 super bowl had dallas and a team from new York
hardly the be all end all, and the ratings you list are incorrect (unless you really thought post strike ratings were a great way to judge baseball's popularity, when I'm telling you that's what killed it)
the 91 world series had 35 million plus viewers, and in the realm of television, of course a January NFL sporting event will outdraw an October championship event. why do you think summer is the pits for tv? The NFL was really big, not more popular than baseball, big enough to get 40 million viewers in late January, kind of like baseball consistently got 35 million viewers for the WS from the mid 80s to 91
no one is pretending baseball was ever as big as the NFL is now, nor was it light years ahead of the NFL in the early 90s, but it was bigger
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:46 am to pvilleguru
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So there aren't fans of the sport, just fans of teams?
You don't think people are more likely to post in here during the game if it's a team they care more about?
Certain teams have much larger followings than others on this board. The Royals and Giants are two of the smaller ones... or at the very least somewhere in the middle.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:47 am to LSUBoo
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You don't think people are more likely to post in here during the game if it's a team they care more about?
oh yeah if this was a stros/braves WS, the threads would be bigger
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:48 am to Cosmo
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A potential World Series clinching game thread? 6 pages
Baseball fans are intelligent are rather watch a game than post on a message board about the game.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:52 am to barry
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Baseball fans are intelligent
and there it is. again
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rather watch a game than post on a message board about the game.
like i said earlier, baseball lends itself to posting with all the downtime
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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like i said earlier, baseball lends itself to posting with all the downtime
So does golf. Where are the long in game golf threads?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:54 am to barry
I can give you stats and name entire teams from the old days of baseball. I loved it.
I couldn't name 5 guys on the Giants and Royals combined.
I lost interest completely at some point. I'm not even quite sure why, but I know I am not alone in this.
I couldn't name 5 guys on the Giants and Royals combined.
I lost interest completely at some point. I'm not even quite sure why, but I know I am not alone in this.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:55 am to barry
I have to say it for the millionth time. The south is NOT a MLB region. Go to the east coast, midwest, or cali. Baseball is doing just fine. People in Jersey probably wonder how the hell college football was still around.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:57 am to Tigertown in ATL
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I couldn't name 5 guys on the Giants and Royals combined.
I lost interest completely at some point. I'm not even quite sure why, but I know I am not alone in this.
Thanks for the statistical sample size of one. I hate when people post on here that they used to like baseball, now they dont. Thanks debate over.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:57 am to barry
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Go to the east coast
nothing better than summer and fall baseball in the northeast. That's where all the tradition is for the sport.
say what you want about baseball, but no other sport will have the superstitions, myths and legends...and certainly will never have any one player as legendary as babe ruth
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