re: The BCS has been more right than we think

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a 4 team playoff

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I know. I agree. But that ain't happening right now. I'm asking for some ideas to tweak the current system, like they have done many times so far. You say it's crap, but agree it's better than what we had, so let's hear something that could clear up what you so strongly disagree with.

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Still found a way to win.

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So did Auburn. So why is their "still finding a way to win" not ok, but USC's is?

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So when #4 and #5 have the same record, but #4 lost its last game, does #5 get to go even though #4 has a tougher schedule?

How do you decide who gets the #4 spot? Four-team playoff?

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Who cares. The farther you get from #1 and #2 the less I give a shite how they got there.

Amost every year you have 3 or 4 teams that legitimately deserve a shot. The years that #5 could make any reasonable argument are so few and far between (yes, last year was an abberation) that it doesn't warrant changing the system to accomodate that scenario.

Add the Cotton or Peach to BCS status, have 4 teams duke it out and keep the bowl setup just like it is. Rotate which two bowls will decide the NC game.

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I liked your "qualification based" playoff idea.

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Why, thank you, sir.

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If I can possibly say this without sounding like an arrogant prick, I honestly think it's the best playoff idea ever.

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Add the Cotton or Peach to BCS status, have 4 teams duke it out and keep the bowl setup just like it is. Rotate which two bowls will decide the NC game.

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Lemme know when you figure out for yourself that you can't use bowls for playoff games. I'm not going to explain why--I've done it thousands of times and I'm tired of doing it--so you'll have to figure it out some other way.

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crew the Rose Bowl. Its not bigger than the sport.

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I am just saying that this is the most realistic scenario. The ESPN announcers were talking about it during the ND game. If we do get a +1 then it will be like this.

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AGREED!!!!!! Great tradition BUT........

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...so is Army/Navy.

The Rose Bowl has held us back from a playoff, and who's about to get "screwed" for the third time in six years?

Southern fricking California.

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If I can possibly say this without sounding like an arrogant prick, I honestly think it's the best playoff idea ever.

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Its definitely original, and its better than a normal playoff in that if there is a big dropoff between the #1 and #2 teams and the #3 and #4 teams, you don't have to argue about who deserves it, you can just leave them out if they don't qualify. Pretty good idea, IMO.

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2000, Miami. Same record as Florida State. FSU had the tougher schedule and got the nod. Injustice? No. The BCS got it right.

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uh...that's the point, the BCS is flawed. FSU should be able to lose to Miami because they had a tougher sched. No! UM won on the field. Also, Washington played a tough sched. and only lost 1 game, to Oregon on the road in Eugene. Both of those teams had as much gripe.

END RESULT: FSU lays an egg in Miami and doesn't score on offense as OU wins 13-2. I think UW or UM get points on the board and win. In the meantime, Miami beats Florida 37-20 in the Sugar Bowl and Washington wins the Rose over Brees and the Boilermakers 34-24.

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2001, Oregon. Nebraska was 11-1; Oregon was 10-1. Nebraska had a higher SOS. Injustice? No. The BCS got it right.

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What's with the SOS crap. Oregon had 1 loss to a quality opponent. Nebraska did too...but they lost by a 62-36 margin. That's not easily forgotten. Oh yeah, they didn't win the division, much less the Big 12 title. And the old adage of 'it's better to lose early' was tossed out the window. NU was ranked #4 in human polls going into the game against Miami.

Granted, NU got into the game via a Vol win over Florida in a game moved b/c of 9-11, an upset of Texas by Colorado in a close Big 12 Title tilt in Dallas, and an upset of Tennessee by LSU in the SEC title game. NU was lucky...but Oregon was screwed. Hell, a 2 loss Colorado team would have been better.

END RESULT: Nebraska trails 34-0 at the half and loses 37-14 handing the Canes' the title. Colorado loses steam and is smashed by a tough Oregon squad 38-16 in Tempe.

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2003, Southern California. Oklahoma 12-1, LSU 11-1 (1A), USC 11-1. Oklahoma had the highest SOS, and LSU second. OU/LSU in the title game. The BCS got it right (no matter how wrong it seemed).

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Oklahoma loses big in the conference title to Kansas State. LSU wins big over UGa in the SEC title game. USC wins outright Pac-10 title. Odd team is Oklahoma. But with their luck, of course not only do they get in, they stay #1 in the BCS! How outrageous! USC was #1 in both human polls. This shoulda been LSU-USC all the way. Once again, losing late had no bearing on the Sooners. I mean, they were supposed to be the greatest team ever, right?

END RESULT: LSU outdoes Oklahoma in New Orleans 21-14 to win the BCS and USC takes care of Michigan 28-14 in the Rose to win the AP. Hmm...maybe they shoulda settled it on the field.

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2004, Auburn. Oklahoma and Southern California had higher SOS's than Auburn. The BCS isn't supposed to sympathize with Auburn because a team bailed on them; the BCS chose the two most qualified teams, which is what its objective is. The BCS got it right.

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agreed...

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2006, Michigan. Florida and Michigan were both 11-1 (vs. 1A). Florida had a higher SOS. It's as simple as that. The BCS got it right.

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Michigan also didn't win the conference, or three-way tie. They lost it on the field. And Florida proved their worth over the Bucks in Glendale anyway.

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2007, Virginia Tech, Oklahoma, Missouri, Southern California, Kansas, West Virginia, Arizona State. LSU had a higher SOS than all of them. Kansas, who is the only one mentioned who had only one loss, had the 5th weakest schedule in the country (and to their credit, they did little to no bitching). LSU was ranked #2 in the polls and the computers. The only possible complaint could come from Virginia Tech, who was #1 in the computers (Ohio State was #3). Again, all things considered, the BCS got it right.

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Right again. VaTech, once again, had their playoff and lost 48-7 in Baon Rouge. Oklahoma played a weak sched. and has lucked out enough, haha! Missouri lost the conf. title, USC lost to Stanford at home! WVU lost to Pitt later than LSU lost to Arky. I won't even mention ASU. The only team with a beef is Kansas because they had 1 loss, but once again...their playoff was against Mizzou, and they blew it.

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About 99% of the people who bash the BCS (even and especially the ones on TV) have no idea wtf they're talking about.

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We have no idea what we are talking about? Or maybe we just don't use SOS to settle every argument. The game is played on the field, not on computers.