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Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:54 am to
Well you made fun of me for bringing up a point you sarcastically implied everyone knew about yet you clearly don't have a handle ob the situation. I don't care wtf Hanley said as Fredi was leaving he doesn't like the guy. And the Marlins obviously chose Hanley over Fredi knowing the 2 couldn't co-exist. Remember he was fired a month later after this incident. Absolutely not just a coincidence.
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:57 am to
I wish Fredi would get in an argument with one of our current players
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:59 am to
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yet you clearly don't have a handle ob the situation.

WTF are you talking about?

You are acting like Hanley shot his mom, man.

Hanley was lazy on a play.
He got disciplined.
He acted immature and stupid about it.
They worked it out.

quote:

And the Marlins obviously chose Hanley over Fredi knowing the 2 couldn't co-exist.


Well I bet they just had an awful time making that decision...

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Remember he was fired a month later after this incident. Absolutely not just a coincidence.



Why not?

Discipline issues happen. On every team. Everywhere. Everyone in the media had Fredi's back for the way he handled this.

The Marlins fired Fredi because he sucks.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:00 am to
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Glad we took Robert Fick in the Rule 5 draft.



Was actually my first thought.
Posted by okietiger
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:10 am to
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I wish Fredi would get in an argument with one of our current players


Even if he did it would only be a minor tiff therefore doesn't count (see above for reason for this logic).

Clearly the only way to truly start a true issue with your manager is to "frick his mom" or "shoot his mom". Clearly.

LULZ.
This post was edited on 12/8/11 at 11:12 am
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:13 am to
I'm not sure why you are acting like I'm some sort of a moron for saying it's not that big of a deal and shouldn't be considered when the player himself said he'll miss Fredi.

LINK

quote:

"Our relationship was good after that," Ramirez said. "Everything was good."


Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:14 am to
Can we eat this fish?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:30 am to
Doubtful.

Even if they don't like each other, it shouldn't matter. I think people get too caught up in the whole "team chemistry" thing sometimes.

They need to get along and work together and play well, but this is their job, after all. I work with people I don't like. We all do. You do your job, I do mine. Things work out.

JMO, but if they really let the opinion of Fredi on Hanley get in the way, they are stupid.

I'm more concerned with Hanley's attitude in general than Fredi's particular relationship with him.
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:31 am to
I got rammed for saying those exact things after the Yunel trade
Posted by RollDatRoll
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:40 am to
I'd love to get HanRam. I would hope that maturity would come with age. I would also love to see us make a move at Trumbo now that the Angels have The Machine. He could be a big rh bat that could play left field.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:58 am to
Trade for HanRam and fire Fredi. Two birds, one stone.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 12:07 pm to
By me? Maybe.

Yunel isn't as good as Hanley
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 12:19 pm to
By everybody

I just hate when professional teams make trades just based on team chemistry, unless it is warranted by a player bad mouthing all his teammates or something along those lines.
Posted by USAF Hart
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 12:54 pm to
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not like he fricked his mom or something.






Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:00 pm to
Hanley & Minor Leaguer for JJ, Betancourt, & Hoover - gives us money to extend McCann... thoughts?
Posted by USAF Hart
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:24 pm to
we will extend McCann regardless. No way in hell we let him go. As for Hanley, it would take a whole hell of alot to get him. Not sure if we would be able to part with what the marlins would want. Obviously a divisional rival will drive up the asking price.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6124 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Obviously a divisional rival will drive up the asking price


We didn't give up that much for Uggla IMO

quote:

we will extend McCann regardless


Wouldn't be so sure. He has an option for 2013 I believe, and he'll be 30 which is old for a catcher. He can't move to 1B with Freeman there. I think we SHOULD re-sign him. I just wasn't sold that it was a given that we WOULD. Betancourt is supposed to be the real deal and should be ML ready by 2014...
Posted by USAF Hart
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:27 pm to
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He can't move to 1B with Freeman there


Freeman played LF in either high school or winter ball I believe.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6124 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:32 pm to
Hmm, learn something new every day.

I guess it really depends on what we do. If we grab Hanley then I'm all for moving Freeman to LF down the road. If we grab an OF bat then obviously Freeman staying at 1B makes more sense.
Posted by okietiger
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Member since Oct 2005
42458 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:33 pm to
Solution to all our problems:

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