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re: "The 2001-2002 Shoulda-been National Champions"
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:11 pm to Tiger Live2
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:11 pm to Tiger Live2
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Maybe my judgement is clouded on that by all the beatdowns LSU had received courtesy of Spurrier and UF
They beat the shite out of us that year too 44-15 in Tiger Stadium
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:12 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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3.05 USC
An 0-1 team?
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4.99 FSU
I believe they were the first team to go wire-to-wire.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:14 pm to texastiger38
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They beat the shite out of us that year too 44-15 in Tiger Stadium
Oh I know. I was trying to leave out as many painful times as possible. 02 Florida was sweet till Mauck got injured
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:16 pm to Tiger Live2
'01 Miami is the most talented team of all time. There's probably no debate about that. But I can't rightly call a team coached by Larry Coker the best team of all time.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:17 pm to VerlanderBEAST
You want to argue about Miami playing no one, and then list FSU. They had a 1 game regular season. Granted UF was a very good team annually then. But the ACC might of been even worse then than it is now.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:23 pm to xenythx
Since no one saw them play...except Peej and Keith Jackson (who ranked them the best of all-time) it's hard to talk about the 1972 Trojans...
But this is worth mentioning what their peers thought about them:
USC, coached by John McKay, finished the season 12-0 after blowing out Ohio State 42-17 in the Rose Bowl. In the process, the Trojans became the first team to be named No. 1 on every ballot of both the coaches and media polls.
That includes...1971 Nebraska. Which says something.
The `72 Trojans beat their 12 opponents by an average of almost 28 points per game. Their schedule included six ranked teams -- No. 4 Nebraska, No. 15 Stanford, No. 18 Washington, No. 14 UCLA, No. 10 Notre Dame, and No. 3 Ohio State -- which USC beat by an average of 20.2 points per game.
But this is worth mentioning what their peers thought about them:
USC, coached by John McKay, finished the season 12-0 after blowing out Ohio State 42-17 in the Rose Bowl. In the process, the Trojans became the first team to be named No. 1 on every ballot of both the coaches and media polls.
That includes...1971 Nebraska. Which says something.
The `72 Trojans beat their 12 opponents by an average of almost 28 points per game. Their schedule included six ranked teams -- No. 4 Nebraska, No. 15 Stanford, No. 18 Washington, No. 14 UCLA, No. 10 Notre Dame, and No. 3 Ohio State -- which USC beat by an average of 20.2 points per game.
This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:24 pm to xenythx
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But I can't rightly call a team coached by Larry Coker the best team of all time.
Now that is the best reason I have heard yet supporting that claim
Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:12 pm to dukke v
Only team that wouldve given Miami a game that year wouldve been Florida. that wouldve still been an arse kicking.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:18 pm to geauxtigersfromcali
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Only team that wouldve given Miami a game that year wouldve been Florida. that wouldve still been an arse kicking.
I think that game would have been close. UF was IMO the 2nd best team that year and this being a rivalry game would have brought out the best in both teams. These are two teams that absolutely hate each other and would have been a hell of a lot of fun to watch.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:19 pm to geauxtigersfromcali
Ed Reed didn't pick off the pass against BC. He took it from his own teammated and raced in for 6.
And who mentioned K-State? That was '98...they went to the Alamo Bowl and promptly lost to a Drew Brees' led Purdue squad.
And who mentioned K-State? That was '98...they went to the Alamo Bowl and promptly lost to a Drew Brees' led Purdue squad.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:53 pm to DollaChoppa
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trendy preseason pick out west but not that of as a legitimate candidate when pitted against the might of the SEC or ACC,
Miami was in the Big East then
Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:53 pm to BrerTiger
Yeah, that's the biggest screw job in BCS history. I've posted it many times.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 10:04 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
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Yeah, that's the biggest screw job in BCS history. I've posted it many times.
I thought Miami the previous year was a bigger screw job. They even beat FSU that year.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 10:26 pm to Tiger Live2
2000 was weird...there was this deal where FSU gets in to play OU. The Seminoles had a loss to Miami by 3 points at the Orange Bowl. Miami only had one loss which was to Washington, by 5 points and in Seattle. Washington also had only 1 loss, which was against a 10-2 Oregon squad in Autzen Stadium.
Ironically enough, the Huskies did have a key win over Oregon State, who also finished 10-1. The Beavers lone loss was in Seattle by 3 points.
So you could argue that FSU, Miami, Washington, or MAYBE Oregon State could have been in the game against OU.
Ironically enough, the Huskies did have a key win over Oregon State, who also finished 10-1. The Beavers lone loss was in Seattle by 3 points.
So you could argue that FSU, Miami, Washington, or MAYBE Oregon State could have been in the game against OU.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 10:36 pm to TexasTiger08
If it had been Washington, I don't think there is nearly controversy. I think Miami was better, and proved it the following year, but Washington did have a legit argument too. FSU, just simply didn't deserve to be there IMO
Posted on 8/15/12 at 10:38 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Not even close
Not even close? Are you smoking wacky weed?
Get the frick out of here with that. 1995 Nebraska has a better resume and was just a beastly team but that Miami team had all stars at every position.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 10:38 pm to TexasTiger08
Yes the Huskies did beat Miami that year but they won 7 games by 10 points or less.
I never thought they were that good.
I still think they should have been ranked ahead of Miami that year after beating them and playing and beating more ranked teams.
Miami beat FSU by 3 points and lost to UW. The rest of their schedule sort of stunk...
McNeese State
West Virginia (mediocre .500 club)
Rutgers (when they were one of the worst teams in America)
Temple - ditto
Louisiana Tech
VaTech
Pitt
Syracuse
Boston College
I have no problem with FSU playing OU.
If anyone should have gotten the nod it should have been UW - but like I said, I thought FSU was a better team.
I never thought they were that good.
I still think they should have been ranked ahead of Miami that year after beating them and playing and beating more ranked teams.
Miami beat FSU by 3 points and lost to UW. The rest of their schedule sort of stunk...
McNeese State
West Virginia (mediocre .500 club)
Rutgers (when they were one of the worst teams in America)
Temple - ditto
Louisiana Tech
VaTech
Pitt
Syracuse
Boston College
I have no problem with FSU playing OU.
If anyone should have gotten the nod it should have been UW - but like I said, I thought FSU was a better team.
This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 8/15/12 at 10:42 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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1.95 Nebraska 2.05 Texas 3.05 USC 4.99 FSU 5.01 Miami
08 Florida and 11 Bama would beat 2-4
they would lose to 01 Miami and 95 Nebraska though. Frazier was a beast
Posted on 8/15/12 at 10:43 pm to WicKed WayZ
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08 Florida and 11 Bama would beat 2-4 they would lose to 01 Miami and 95 Nebraska though. Frazier was a beast
Guess that Vince Young guy wasn't a beast?
Posted on 8/15/12 at 10:47 pm to WicKed WayZ
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11 Bama would beat 2-4
How are they keeping up? Do you know about USC's run D? Incredibly balanced team on offense too with the run and pass so Bama couldn't load up like they were able to do with their opponents last year. USC shut down Adrian Peterson. Sedrick Ellis, Matt Grootegoed, Lofa Tatupu and Shaun Cody were beasts.
Talk about 2001 Miami - Twenty-eight players on the 2004 USC roster became NFL draft picks.
This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 10:48 pm
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