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re: Stan Van Gundy - “What good reason is there to play the anthem before a game?”

Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:22 am to
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28887 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:22 am to
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So "because we've already been doing it for a while" is the best justification? That is terrible logic.


And you want to use the same ‘terrible logic’ to remove a tradition?
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28887 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:29 am to
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Lyrically and sonically, it's a pretty lousy song.


Music is art. The beauty is in the eye of the beholder, yes? We get that YOU don’t like the song, but you can’t spout off that it’s lousy as some fact that can be proven.

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It doesn't rhyme


Get this...some poems don’t rhyme either. This isn’t country music, bud.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25179 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:43 am to
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SVG just asked a question. "Why do we do this?" No one has given an intelligible response yet.


it was started (before every game) during World War II when most stadiums finally had speakers so they wouldn't have had to hire a band to play it. It was to increase patriotism and morale during a world war and I'd say it was probably a great thing at the time. Now it no longer serves the purpose of raising morale because people are constantly bitching about it being played or people kneeling and whatnot. it is a net negative compared to just not playing it at all.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28887 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:45 am to
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Gravitiger


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fricktard


Not a high volume poster, but easily one of the worst on the board. He’s been a blind sheep on here. Not long ago he was flapping his gums about the importance of the republic and our constitution, and now he’s taking these stances?

I’d say he was a troll, but his post history suggests he just ain’t too bright.
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 12:28 pm to
He’s not wrong. Why feel the need to shove patriotism into non-international sporting events? It’s moronic and unnecessary and an empty AF gesture.

I’d rather home teams develop some kind of fight song for fan involvement. That’d at least make sense.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12139 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 12:56 pm to
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Music is art. The beauty is in the eye of the beholder, yes?
There is objectively good and bad art. The Star-Spangled Banner is bad art. So is the hymn it is sung to.
This post was edited on 2/13/21 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12139 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 12:57 pm to
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And you want to use the same ‘terrible logic’ to remove a tradition?
This doesn't make sense.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
134977 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 1:01 pm to
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swelling with pride every time you hear the national anthem


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Republican


Most likely, yes.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12139 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 1:06 pm to
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it was started (before every game) during World War II when most stadiums finally had speakers so they wouldn't have had to hire a band to play it.
This is just wrong.
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It was to increase patriotism and morale during a world war
This directly contradicts the statement above. It was also literally my original point. It was started as war propaganda.
This post was edited on 2/13/21 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
2058 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 1:08 pm to
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shove patriotism into non-international sporting events


The sad state of the country when patriotism is viewed as a negative. Thanks progressives.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12139 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 1:12 pm to
Forced patriotism is a negative.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 1:46 pm to
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Gravitiger


I understand you hate this country, but no need to drag down the rest of us who love this country.

Posted by HL
Member since May 2020
200 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 1:57 pm to
I guess you voted for and think Trump was a patriot
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
2058 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 2:23 pm to
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Forced patriotism is a negative.


Wow an actual social construct. You are either a patriot or you are not. It is not something that is forced.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
7826 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 2:25 pm to
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The sad state of the country when patriotism is viewed as a negative. Thanks progressives.


This country is so oppressive they can openly hate the country, president and a large percent of the population with no concern about repercussions lol
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2263 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 3:03 pm to
This is a pathetic response in everyway.

You literally offer no rebuttal.

SVG asked the question and I answered it strongly and then your response was just a bunch of nonsense.

Must be brainwashed in CRT.


Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12139 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 3:51 pm to
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I understand you hate this country
I love this country.
This post was edited on 2/13/21 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12139 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 3:53 pm to
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You literally offer no rebuttal.

I literally offered rebuttals to everything you said. Either you don't know what literally means, or you don't know what a rebuttal is.
This post was edited on 2/13/21 at 3:54 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28887 posts
Posted on 2/13/21 at 5:40 pm to
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You literally offer no rebuttal.


This is how he argues. His next step will be to twist your words around, claim you said something, but never be able to offer up the quote or post.
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