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re: Some scouts claim that Aroldis Chapman only has one pitch
Posted on 5/16/13 at 2:08 pm to GynoSandberg
Posted on 5/16/13 at 2:08 pm to GynoSandberg
I agree I just think there is way more value in a SP than a closer.
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 2:12 pm to reddman
Damn I feel sorry for the catcher 
Posted on 5/16/13 at 2:12 pm to reddman
Dude was hitting 102 on his fastballs.
That slider after 102 heat is sick.
That slider after 102 heat is sick.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 2:45 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
Check WS winners over the past 20 years.
It's a job a lot pitchers can do.
Giants - Sergio Romo was a setup guy that become the closer.
Cardinals - Fernando Salas?
Giants - Brian Wilson was good for a 2-3 year span, now unemployed
Yankees - Obviously Mo is awesome
Phillies - Lidge was good for a couple of years.
Red Sox - Papelbon is probably the 2nd best on this list and his career isn't mindblowing
Cardinals - Jason Isringhausen, he was solid.
White Sox - Dustin Hermanson, ha
Red Sox - Keith Foulke
Marlins - Braden Looper
That's the last decade and there's one, maybe two actually elite pitchers on the list.
Most of those guys are garbage.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 2:53 pm to OBUDan
Foulke, Izzy, Papelborn have all been considered top tier closers for several years in past
Wilson was considered a top tier closer and coming off shoulder injury
Lidge has had seasons of mediocreness mixed in with dominance
Romo has a chance to be next set up man to good/great closer
Mo we all know
Also wasn't Jenks closer for White Sox?
The rest I have nothing to say about although Looper was a really good closer for a few years until STL moved him into the rotation
Wilson was considered a top tier closer and coming off shoulder injury
Lidge has had seasons of mediocreness mixed in with dominance
Romo has a chance to be next set up man to good/great closer
Mo we all know
Also wasn't Jenks closer for White Sox?
The rest I have nothing to say about although Looper was a really good closer for a few years until STL moved him into the rotation
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 5/16/13 at 3:21 pm to tduecen
Hermanson closed the year they won the WS.
But of those guys mentioned, their peaks of dominance last about 3 years before they fade into utter oblivion other than Papelbon and Mo.
I'm just of the opinion that a closer's total worth is about 60 total innings on a year, and that's if they get in the game a ton. That's 10 decent starts.
I think it's more important to just have a bunch of good arms on the back end.
But of those guys mentioned, their peaks of dominance last about 3 years before they fade into utter oblivion other than Papelbon and Mo.
I'm just of the opinion that a closer's total worth is about 60 total innings on a year, and that's if they get in the game a ton. That's 10 decent starts.
I think it's more important to just have a bunch of good arms on the back end.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 3:25 pm to OBUDan
But Jenks recorded all World Series saves correct?
I think closers value is overrated but I imagine the Indians wish they had a closer with a stronger mental state, they may have a championship banner.
I think closers value is overrated but I imagine the Indians wish they had a closer with a stronger mental state, they may have a championship banner.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 3:27 pm to reddman
nice gif
dude has great stuff
dude has great stuff
Posted on 5/16/13 at 3:27 pm to tduecen
He got 2.
Mark Buehrle got 1.
Brad Lidge was also the LP in two of the four losses.
Mark Buehrle got 1.
Brad Lidge was also the LP in two of the four losses.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 3:32 pm to OBUDan
Looking at it now,
Jenks blew save in game 2 and Lidge was in a non-save situation when he gave up home run
Hermanson blew save in game 3
Jenks save in game 4, Lidge took loss in nonsave situation again
Both of Lidge's losses came in a tie game where he allowed go ahead run.
Buerhle got the save in the 14 inning game Hermanson blew save in
Jenks blew save in game 2 and Lidge was in a non-save situation when he gave up home run
Hermanson blew save in game 3
Jenks save in game 4, Lidge took loss in nonsave situation again
Both of Lidge's losses came in a tie game where he allowed go ahead run.
Buerhle got the save in the 14 inning game Hermanson blew save in
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 5/16/13 at 3:34 pm to tduecen
That series pretty much proves my point of the worth of closers.
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