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re: So who is this week's better running back than LF?

Posted on 10/25/15 at 12:58 am to
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 12:58 am to
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Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:05 am to
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Fournette was "held in check" with 180 yards and 2 TDS against one of the best defenses in the country last week. Just saying...


I don't know if the #23 rushing defense is "one of the best defenses in the country", especially when you look at the rest of their schedule. They're OK. Just saying...
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 2:17 am to
Who have y'all played again?
Posted by rawDAWG333
Knoxville
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 2:23 am to
I'll say it again.

Christian McCaffery.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 2:32 am to
They are 23 after LF went for 180 on them

Go take a peek where they were before the LSU game
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 2:37 am to
Again, look at who they played before the LSU game.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 2:39 am to
Does the Ohio State schedule make Leonard Fournette better against Western Kentucky?
Posted by rawDAWG333
Knoxville
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 2:47 am to
just my opinion. But it's..

LF


Cook, Henry and Zeke fighting for 2nd best.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 6:04 am to
Cook is still better and its hilarious you left out the 4 catches for 50 yards he had
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 6:34 am to
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quote: Zeke ran the ball once in the 4th quarter. Up 42-0. If he would've got hurt on that play you would be pretty upset at CUM right now.



“Coach Meyer really didn’t want to put me in on that last series; he was ready to bench me,” Elliott said. “He was like, ‘You better get it early, I’m only going to give you a couple plays.’”

That answers that dilemma
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 6:51 am to
If we ran Fournette while up big at the end of games, he'd have 3000 yards already.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 6:52 am to
Ohio St fan talking about strength of schedule
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 7:29 am to
Well, since you're rarely up big you don't have that problem, now do you?
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 7:36 am to
I really hate the "if you take out the 80 yard play" kind of shite.

Why would the big play ability not count? Even if you're going to do that you can't negate all of the yards on that play. Presumably the player would have had plays in a longer drive to get some of those yards.

It's stupid; that's what I'm trying to say.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 7:39 am to
LSU fan talking about strength of schedule.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 7:45 am to
After reading this thread, you're all being ridiculous.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 7:47 am to
Of course. It wouldn't be any fun otherwise.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 7:59 am to
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I really hate the "if you take out the 80 yard play" kind of shite.

Why would the big play ability not count? Even if you're going to do that you can't negate all of the yards on that play. Presumably the player would have had plays in a longer drive to get some of those yards.

It's stupid; that's what I'm trying to say.


It can help provide context. That said, LF7 has benefitted every bit as much from the big plays as Zeke. But both in value to the team and quality as a back, an 87 yard run with a bunch of 0-2 yard gains only provides the team 1 first down. 100 yards on 15 carries evenly distributed is much more valuable for the offense.

Also, running back stats are so low(relatively speaking) that its irreparably skewed by field position. Take the South Carolina game. Had Fournette happened to break that exact same play from the 50, he would have had 37 yards less on the day. That becomes a huge difference since RBs don't go for 300 yards to smooth out those outliers like QBs do.

Obviously those yards were still earned and counted. But just like completion percentage is important for QBs, its not just about getting a lot of yards or even yards per carry.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 8:31 am to
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Well, since you're rarely up big you don't have that problem, now do you?


Heaven forbid there is another player in the country equal to or (gasp) better than a LSU player.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160118 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 8:34 am to
It's so funny to watch the transition in LSU fans. When the team is down, it's all "Les Miles is so fricking stupid, everything sucks yaddee yadda"

When they're winning though is when they hit their final form

"MAD HATTER BITCH!!!! SUCK THAT LEONARD FOURNETTE DICK BITCH!!"
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