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Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:52 pm to 360footjog
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They need their own division.
All privates should separate from LHSAA and form their own league.
The only answer.
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:52 pm to 360footjog
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No no. Not the best players. The total number you have to choose from to build your team.
Ok, well the New Orleans-area is pretty much more populated than the rest of Louisiana.
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:54 pm to Modern
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All privates should separate from LHSAA and form their own league.
If that happens, the LHSAA is fricked because what school do you think are helping them with the funding?
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:55 pm to Broski
That's why there are more higher classed public schools there than in central LA. My point is private schools can choose students from outside their "zone" thus increasing the number of athletes they can choose from exponentially. In turn they should be in a higher class than public schools with the same enrollment numbers.
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:56 pm to Broski
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Wouldn't that be considered an outlier from the norm though?
Yes. Especially in 5A and 4A when Evangel and Curtis dropped. I think last year's Rummel team was the first private in either of the top two divisions to win it since reclassification started.
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:57 pm to 360footjog
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That's why there are more higher classed public schools there than in central LA. My point is private schools can choose students from outside their "zone" thus increasing the number of athletes they can choose from exponentially. In turn they should be in a higher class than public schools with the same enrollment numbers.
So why is that where the line should be drawn?
Posted on 12/12/13 at 11:59 pm to Broski
Which school?
Posted on 12/13/13 at 12:00 am to Broski
What line? Central LA was just a comparison. Your missing the point. My point is public schools are classified by enrollment numbers bc the higher enrolled schools have more students to choose from to compile a team. Well the enrolment numbers of a private school do not accurately reflect the number of students they had to choose from to build a team for that year. They can pull students from outside their zone.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 12:02 am to 360footjog
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What line? Central LA was just a comparison. Your missing the point. My point is public schools are classified by enrollment numbers bc the higher enrolled schools have more students to choose from to compile a team. Well the enrolment numbers of a private school do not accurately reflect the number of students they had to choose from to build a team for that year. They can pull students from outside their zone.
So then how come 4A and 5A public schools were having no problems winning?
This is not a Public v. Private thing. It's 2A/3A v. John Curtis & Evangel.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 12:04 am to Broski
Because a 2A/3A public school has a very small sample of students to choose there starting 22 from. A 5A public schools numbers are much more comparable to the numbers John Curtis and evangel choose from to make their starting 22. That's my whole point.
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 12:05 am
Posted on 12/13/13 at 12:06 am to 360footjog
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Because a 2A/3A public school has a very small sample of students to choose there starting 22 from. A 5A public schools numbers are much more comparable to the numbers John Curtis and evangel choose from to male their starting 22. That's my whole point.
So then if that is so unfair, why not just bump Evangel and Curtis back up to 5A like it was before?
Instead, now you have alienated all private schools which could force them to leave LHSAA and they watered down the product immensely.
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 12:07 am
Posted on 12/13/13 at 12:09 am to Broski
Best option in my opinion. I'm not for or against the split. I don't really care to be honest. I just got in this because I think it's stupid people jump on one school for the landscape of high school football in Louisiana now. It's the system we have now so everyone should deal with it. But I think it's unfair to blame Winnfield or wish they would lose bc the state voted to change the system. So I was defending them really.
And no I didn't alienate them. I clearly said the numbers are much more comparable in 5A.
And no I didn't alienate them. I clearly said the numbers are much more comparable in 5A.
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 12:12 am
Posted on 12/13/13 at 12:12 am to 360footjog
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Well the enrolment numbers of a private school do not accurately reflect the number of students they had to choose from to build a team for that year. They can pull students from outside their zone
This logic is completely flawed. You assume that all students both inside and outside their "zone" would willingly attend said private school thus giving the private school some sort advantage. You fail to account for those who don't want to attend, those who can't afford to attend (spare me the free tuition bullshite)& those who simply can't attend for mitigating circumstances ie transportation, not slots available at the school, maybe the private school has a shitty education department etc. Once you whittle it down past that point your looking at a much smaller "draw" than what you assume regardless of zone.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 12:14 am to jonboy
All unpredictable variables. Can't be considered not open for the opportunity to attend said private institution.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 12:34 am to 360footjog
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Can't be considered not open for the opportunity to attend said private institution.
You assume too much. One can't assume that all students would be open to private school nor can the assumption be made that all would not be open. The only reliable assumption that can be made is that "some" would want to attend & "some" would not - which was my point. I'll concede geography, however, without any valid data your claim that private schools have a larger population to draw from is irrelevant.
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 12:35 am
Posted on 12/13/13 at 12:41 am to jonboy
For the sake of this thread going off its title. Data would surely conclude that JC has a larger population sample to choose from than Winnfield. Can we safely say that? Simply going off the thread title.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 1:02 am to 360footjog
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Can we safely say that?
You can say that. However, i'll say that what's true for a private school in New Orleans is not the same as a private school elsewhere. Again, its an assumption that because it's true for Curtis it's true for all & that's rarely the case.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 1:04 am to jonboy
So since that's the case for the two schools in question these two schools should indeed be in different classes??
Posted on 12/13/13 at 1:19 am to 360footjog
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So since that's the case for the two schools in question these two schools should indeed be in different classes??
Not at all. Different classes already exist.What matters in the end is the actual population of the school. If you have 200 students at one school & 200 at another it matters not where they came from. Curtis is a touchy situation I understand. IMO, they should have been allowed to compete up. However, you have 1A & 2A private schools in parish's that have 2A & 3A public schools that don't have a single advantage other than what's perceived.
ETA: There have been plenty of times that "city" private schools got their asses kicked by "country" public schools. This appears to be a Curtis issue & not something systemic.
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 1:22 am
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