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re: So Cam is better than Tebow?

Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:00 pm to
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:00 pm to
If Newton is better than Tebow AND Newton's Team is better than Tebow's. What is Tebow is doing in the playoffs while Cam is on the couch?
Posted by Ioncehitta Longball
LAFFY
Member since Aug 2011
881 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:01 pm to
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Newton > Tebow

Newton's receiver's > Tebow's


Fify
Posted by Boosh Dag
Member since Oct 2011
1667 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:01 pm to
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If Newton is better than Tebow AND Newton's Team is better than Tebow's. What is Tebow is doing in the playoffs while Cam is on the couch?


Tougher division?

Posted by Boosh Dag
Member since Oct 2011
1667 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:02 pm to
Don't forget the running backs and tight ends. Cam has better running back and tight ends.

I can't even name Tebow's tight end.
Posted by BestInTheWorld
Member since Jan 2012
259 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:02 pm to
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If Newton is better than Tebow AND Newton's Team is better than Tebow's. What is Tebow is doing in the playoffs while Cam is on the couch?


You just fricked up TTsTowel's whole modus operandi.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:02 pm to
He is better
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70559 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:04 pm to
yeah but Denver's Defense is >>>>>>>>>>>>>Carolina's thus taking A TON of pressure off of Tim. Cam has basically had to play shootouts week in and week out. If the Carolina offense had this defense to compliment them they'd be an 11+ win team.
Posted by BestInTheWorld
Member since Jan 2012
259 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:06 pm to
I forgot about Denver's elite below average defense
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:06 pm to
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yeah but Denver's Defense is >>>>>>>>>>>>>Carolina's thus taking A TON of pressure off of Tim. Cam has basically had to play shootouts week in and week out. If the Carolina offense had this defense to compliment them they'd be an 11+ win team.


Yep. The Panthers went from the worst offense in all of football to a top 5 or so offense in 1 year and 90% was because of one person. If Cam was starting for the Broncos they would be sitting at home right now with a first round bye and a legit shot to make the super bowl.

Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:07 pm to
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If Cam was starting for the Broncos they would be sitting at home right now with a first round bye and a legit shot to make the super bowl.


Posted by BestInTheWorld
Member since Jan 2012
259 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:07 pm to
The Panthers gave up a whopping 39 more points on the season than the Broncos did. You can thank the Saints for that.
Posted by Ioncehitta Longball
LAFFY
Member since Aug 2011
881 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:08 pm to
Yep, basically Tebow has a better offensive line/defense. Cam has better skill positions to get the ball to.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:09 pm to
The alter is obsessed with me
Posted by BestInTheWorld
Member since Jan 2012
259 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:11 pm to
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Tebow has a better offensive line/defense.


LOL WUT?

The Panthers defense is on equal footing with the Broncos. Let's be honest, if Newton wasn't turning it over left and right, the Panthers probably would have allowed less points than the Bronco's defense.

The Broncos have a SLIGHTLY better defense than the Broncos.

Take out the quarterbacks, and the Panthers have a top 8 supporting cast at worst. The Broncos have a bottom 4 supporting cast.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20218 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:12 pm to
Well after 5 games this season here were the two teams records.

Denver 1-4
Carolina 1-4

Difference? Cam started, Tebow didn't.

So to say Denver's team was better, patently untrue.

Denver's defense got better mostly because Tebow quit putting them in bad position.

Now does Cam look better throwing the ball? Sure, until it lands in the other team's hands, which it did a lot.

Give me the leader who can make plays over the prima-donna who is more interested in looking good every time.

Tebow is so far ahead of Cam when it comes to leadership there's just no comparison at all.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70559 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:14 pm to
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I forgot about Denver's elite below average defense


if you're not smart enough to realize that Denver's defense isn't significantly better than Carolina's then that's your problem. If you can't realize that having your offense go 3 and out through the majority of games thus constantly putting the opposing offense back on the field hurts a defense's stats then that's your problem as well. Tebow got 4-5 of his wins solely from the play of the Broncos D. Cam cannot say the same.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:15 pm to
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The Panthers defense is on equal footing with the Broncos.


Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:17 pm to
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Let's be honest, if Newton wasn't turning it over left and right, the Panthers probably would have allowed less points than the Bronco's defense.


Broncos turned it over more. Panthers defense forced more turnovers too.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38420 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:17 pm to
It's really hard for me to believe that Gamecock Alum believes anything he posts... At least I hope he's trolling
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:18 pm to
Tebow in 23 games: 3,270 yards, 29 TDs, 18 turnovers.

Cam in 16 games: 4,757 yards, 35 TDs, 20 turnovers.

Cam projected in 23 games: 6,184 yards 46 TDs, 26 turnovers.

And Cam will be much better in year two than year 1 as well.

Basically this is a laughable discussion, but the world needs stupid people too, so carry on.
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