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Should the NBA implement the Elam Ending to Summer League and/or G League?

Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:52 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:52 am
With the intention of working out the kinks are optimizing it before implementing it in the NBA


Last night was awesome. More intensity in a damn all star game than you get in your run of the mill regular season game. Under the elam ending, good games could take longer (which is ok, it's a good game) and bad games could get shorter because the team that's way ahead at the start of the untimed period only needs a handful of points to win the game.


Also, a next basket wins scenario is superior to a buzzer beater.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 10:54 am
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:53 am to
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Should the NBA implement the Elam Ending to Summer League and/or G League?
With the intention of working out the kinks are optimizing it before implementing it in the NBA
Yes
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:54 am to
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Also, a next basket wins scenario is superior to a buzzer beater.



its not a how a real game should work though.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:56 am to
According to who?

There's nothing in the bible that says basketball games must exclusively have timed periods.
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:58 am to
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its not a how a real game should work though.


Why not?

You can get multiple posessions that are do or die where both teams are at max intensity. With a timed game, you really only can get that once.

Also, it gives life to teams down by reasonable amounts. It's much easier to go on a 10-0 run when the clock isn't a factor.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:58 am to
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According to who?


me.

its saying, without scoring, you can't win. its mandating offense in a sense.
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:59 am to
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its saying, without scoring, you can't win. its mandating offense in a sense.


Well, it's hard to win in most sports without scoring.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:00 am to
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its saying, without scoring, you can't win. its mandating offense in a sense


I wasn't aware that you could currently win an NBA game without scoring.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:00 am to
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its not a how a real game should work though.

Should a real game work with 1 team unintentionally intentionally fouling every defensive trip down the court for the final minute?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:00 am to
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Well, it's hard to win in most sports without scoring.


you should be able to win by holding onto a lead.

in a football game, the winning team has to score 8 in the 4th quarter to win the game... Well, they should be able to win by not allowing the other team to score enough to overtake the lead.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:01 am to
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its saying, without scoring, you can't win. its mandating offense in a sense.
Is that less appealing than letting a team milk the entire 24 second shot clock a couple of times to try and end the game?
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 11:02 am
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:03 am to
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you should be able to win by holding onto a lead.

Why?

The only answer is because that's the way it's always been IMO.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 11:03 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:03 am to
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Is that less appealing than letting a team milk the entire 24 second shot clock a couple of times to try and end the game?


milking clocks is a part of football, basketball, soccer
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:04 am to
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Why?


bc your point lead was earned in the first 3 quarters. If that team was up by 30, they shouldn't be required to score another 24 to win the game in the 4th. Its a fun rule change for gimmick games though.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:05 am to
So because it is, it's the way it has to be?


What does it matter that milking clock is currently part of the game?
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:06 am to
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Well, they should be able to win by not allowing the other team to score enough to overtake the lead.


The TBT Elam Ending requires a team to score 7 points with the clock stopping at 4 min.

That would be a 21 point quarter for an NBA team if they score the required number of points in the amount of time set off. Every single NBA team averages well more than 21 points a quarter.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:07 am to
Your also changing history of the game if you went to this new rule change with comparisons of players ppg averages and historical numbers in different settings.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:07 am to
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bc your point lead was earned in the first 3 quarters. If that team was up by 30, they shouldn't be required to score another 24 to win the game in the 4th. Its a fun rule change for gimmick games though.


It doesn't have to be the same score as last night. You could do 6 (or 5 or 4 or 9 etc) minutes in the fourth, followed by an untimed where you have to hit the leader's score+ 10 (or 12, or 15 or 7 etc)
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:08 am to
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milking clocks is a part of football, basketball, soccer
Doesn't make it interesting or mean we HAVE to have it in a given sport.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:09 am to
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If that team was up by 30, they shouldn't be required to score another 24 to win the game in the 4th.
Realistically, it wouldn't go like this.

They would be up by 30 with about 2 minutes to go, then would need to score 8 or so more.

if you're up 30 and can't score 8 more before the other team scores 38, it's hard to argue that team should still win other then to say, "but we always did it the other way"
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