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re: Scott van Pelt...demanding a playoff
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:24 am to LfcSU3520
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:24 am to LfcSU3520
LSU3520, you broke my heart 
Anywho, it's not relevant whether or not a #6 team has a claim IMO. You give them a shot and if they do end up winning 3 straight games against elite teams than they are a worthy champion. From that standpoint, I would have no problem with an 8 team playoff. The #8 team that had a 10-2 regular season and goes on to win 3 playoff games has actually given me more evidence that they're the best team in the nation than a team that computers determined was worthy of playing for a title game that simply won 1 game.
Anywho, it's not relevant whether or not a #6 team has a claim IMO. You give them a shot and if they do end up winning 3 straight games against elite teams than they are a worthy champion. From that standpoint, I would have no problem with an 8 team playoff. The #8 team that had a 10-2 regular season and goes on to win 3 playoff games has actually given me more evidence that they're the best team in the nation than a team that computers determined was worthy of playing for a title game that simply won 1 game.
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:24 am to Chicken
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I just think that starting with 4 is the best option...and it can always be expanded if it makes sense.
This year, the one we're in right now, shows why this wouldn't work. There is no better argument than that.
If you go with 8, you can play the first round on campus, and the next two are played as bowl games
National Semi Final presented by Fed-Ex, Citi, and so on
those games would make LOTS more money than the current system makes them
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:25 am to LfcSU3520
the only sign of intelligence from espn all night
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:26 am to Chicken
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1. Ohio State 2. LSU 3. Virginia Tech 4. Oklahoma 5. Georgia 6. Missouri 7. USC 8. Kansas
UGA two losses like us, Mizzou's losses both came to a team ranked ahead of them...USC two losses like us, Kansas had only one loss
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:26 am to Ghazi
quote:One of the things I don't like about March Madness is a team that is 14-10 can have a shot at the title.
Anywho, it's not relevant whether or not a #6 team has a claim IMO. You give them a shot and if they do end up winning 3 straight games against elite teams than they are a worthy champion.
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:26 am to Stewie Griffin
Should be reminded 8-8 Chargers made the playoffs while 11-5 New England is at home.
There is no perfect system but the BCS is the best we have had in 20 years. However, everyone hates it. I don't get it.
There is no perfect system but the BCS is the best we have had in 20 years. However, everyone hates it. I don't get it.
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:27 am to Chicken
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Eight teams requires that you have three weekends of games. You would be asking fans of two schools to attend up to three games on short notice.
It would be no different than the start of the season's OOC games, except it would be with two bigger programs more likely.
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Not to mention that the college presidents are not going to like the three extra games.
Two extra. For someone like UF who finished 13-1, they'd just be finishing 15-1. If Appalachain State can play 15, Florida can play 15.
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:28 am to Chicken
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One of the things I don't like about March Madness is a team that is 14-10 can have a shot at the title.
agreed, it's terrible
however 64 teams is a lot more than 8
8 out of 117 is a small percentage and to get in that playoff you'd have to have a very good regular season
with 8 teams you'd be able to get all qualified teams in, while just staying on the verge of keeping out teams whose regular seasons fell short
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:28 am to Chicken
Yes, that is an annoying aspect of March madness. but in general the top 8 teams in the nation will have 10+ wins. A 9-3 might sneak in here and there.
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:29 am to ShermanTxTiger
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Should be reminded 8-8 Chargers made the playoffs while 11-5 New England is at home.
and this is a problem
it's why if there was a playoff conf. champs shouldn't be automatically in
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:29 am to LfcSU3520
quote:Tough titties for Utah and USC. I would have no problem with them being left out in a four team playoff. Because I know that in most years, the no 5 and 6 team won't have a legit claim to the playoff...and no matter what, you will always have a team complaining about being left out.
This year, the one we're in right now, shows why this wouldn't work. There is no better argument than that.
If you go with 8, you can play the first round on campus, and the next two are played as bowl games
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:31 am to Chicken
I'd rather have the 9th team bitch about being left out than the 5th team. but of course, both are preferable to the 3rd team as is the case with the BCS.
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:31 am to Ghazi
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A 9-3 might sneak in here and there.
and if this happens, so what?
You would expect the #1,2 teams to beat teams like this, so the system would correct itself
and if that 9-3 team goes all the way and wins it, then congrats to them.
They didn't have the best reg. season but to win what would be a playoff in CFB would be a humongous task
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:33 am to Chicken
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Tough titties for Utah and USC. I would have no problem with them being left out in a four team playoff. Because I know that in most years, the no 5 and 6 team won't have a legit claim to the playoff.
tough titties to a team that had a better case than ANYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY??
No one has a resume like Utah.
USC's was a tick behind UF's.
And it's two years running that this has been the case, and if I wasn't so lazy as to do the work, I'm sure there's a good number of the last ten years where you might find a similar situation.
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:33 am to LfcSU3520
8 is ideal. 4 is a good start.
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:34 am to Switzerland
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8 is ideal. 4 is a good start.
i agree, but it would make me sick if we had a year like this year and qualified teams were left out.
All that progress to get to the same point.
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:34 am to LfcSU3520
I would be happy with a 6 team...but 8 seems like too many teams. I still think you at least start with four and see how that works.
Utah and USC were no 5 and 6 for a reason.
Utah and USC were no 5 and 6 for a reason.
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:36 am to Chicken
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One of the things I don't like about March Madness is a team that is 14-10 can have a shot at the title.
I've already shown you that on average a team doesn't have a good shot at getting into a 16 team playoff if they have more than 2 losses. look at the last few years. if you have 3 losses you'll be one of the lucky few to get in. were you okay with LSU winning the NC last year with 2 losses?
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:36 am to Chicken
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Utah and USC were no 5 and 6 for a reason.
You're a smart guy chicken, so you have to see why this is absurd.
They were #5, 6 because we all guessed that's what they were.
There is not ONE soul on earth who can tell me that Utah for sure wouldn't beat UF. Same with USC.
They were docked points because their conferences are shite, not their teams. That is absolutely crazy.
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:37 am to LfcSU3520
a 6 team playoff with 1,2 getting a bye I could tolerate
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