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re: Scott van Pelt...demanding a playoff

Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:04 am to
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:04 am to
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Start with a Four team playoff...keep it simple. use BCS poll to determine top 4...let them battle it out...that's just two weekends of games...play two games one weekend, and then the championship game 2-3 weeks later.


So you're saying use the original four BCS games, then let the four winners of those games play it out?

If so, that's the only way to do it.
Posted by tigers
Monroe
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:04 am to
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So if USC and Florida switched rolls would they be saying this? STFU ESPN


Actually, you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. But don't let that get in your way.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:05 am to
i don't think he wants to design the playoff...he just wants one

Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:07 am to
Woah...who edited my title...bad arse


Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:08 am to
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So you're saying use the original four BCS games, then let the four winners of those games play it out?
No...figure out the top 4 before the bowl games. screw the current system. Have two of the major bowls host the two semifinal games...and then have a separate championship game. Let the major bowls rotate for the semifinal games.

The more teams we let in, the more meaningless the regular season becomes...
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:08 am to
I'm a BCS fan, but I'd be OK with a 4 or 6 team playoff, but DEFINITELY NOT 8 or more.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:09 am to
i really think that if you do the research and break it down...that 8 teams makes perfect sense
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:11 am to
6 would be a stretch...how often have we talked about the No. 6 team having a legit claim to the title game?

If you did 6, give no 1 and 2 a bye, and make 5 and 6 travel to the home field of 3 and 4. but I would start with 4 for sure.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24466 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:13 am to
you start with 4...and this year Utah and USC aren't in it

it already fails
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:13 am to
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Care to elaborate? B/c I think if the whole damn country is screaming for a playoff, that would be better than no one saying anything about it...



what the hell do you call the last 5 years...there have been multiple scenarios that should have been a death sentence for the BCS....its not going anywhere...ESPN just signed a fat new deal with it
Posted by lsudiva2010
2014 Class B BBall Champions
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:14 am to
I agree 16 is too much, but still awesome that SVP got pumped like that!
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36166 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:14 am to
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6 would be a stretch...how often have we talked about the No. 6 team having a legit claim to the title game?


I agree. However, it keeps the regular season very meaningful, because it gives the #1 and 2 teams a clear advantage. Plus, there will NEVER be ANY complaining.

My favorite system, though, is the +1. Play the bowls with the old tie ins. Then, after the bowls, take the top two teams and play the NCG.
Posted by keakdasneak
Member since Dec 2006
7137 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:14 am to
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The more teams we let in, the more meaningless the regular season becomes...


I don't believe this to be true. If you look at the top 16 teams going into the bowls, only 3 have more than 2 losses. The same amount we had last year and won the NC championship. So you still have about the same room for error.
This post was edited on 1/9/09 at 12:15 am
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:16 am to
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My favorite system, though, is the +1. Play the bowls with the old tie ins. Then, after the bowls, take the top two teams and play the NCG.


this would be such a fail...so this year who would play?

UT, UF, USC, Utah?

There would be absolutely no way to answer this.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22051 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:16 am to
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you start with 4...and this year Utah and USC aren't in it

it already fails
so be it...how often has No. 6 had a claim to the top game? Not often...maybe this year only.

I would rather screw a team or two a small number of times, than let two teams in that have no business being in most of the time.
Posted by Ghazi
Dallas Mavs 2011 NBA Champions
Member since Dec 2007
16121 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:17 am to
I'd like to see an 8 team playoff. Or 4. Either would be an improvement over the BCS in my opinion. Actually it's not an opinion, it's a fact. A team beating 2-3 elite teams would be more evidence that they're the best team in the nation rather than them simply winning one game. Anything can happen in one game, winning 2-3 games is more solid evidence.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:17 am to
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No...figure out the top 4 before the bowl games.


By doing this, the top four this year would be OU, UF, Bama, and Texas.

Utah and USC were perhaps the two most impressive teams in their BCS bowls, yet neither would get a chance to show what they've got.

quote:

The more teams we let in, the more meaningless the regular season becomes...


You'd have 8 teams in the format I'm suggesting, which is actually two less teams than are allowed in the current BCS, so it would make it MORE meaningful.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24466 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:21 am to
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so be it...how often has No. 6 had a claim to the top game? Not often...maybe this year only.



last year?

we say that #6 doesn't have a claim but the only reason we think that is because we perceive it

how can you say "so be it" to USC and Utah not being in? They're #2 & 3 at worst this season and they wouldn't be in your playoff?
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22051 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:21 am to
You would have a better chance convincing the college presidents and conference directors to go with a four team playoff at first than something with 8.

Eight teams requires that you have three weekends of games. You would be asking fans of two schools to attend up to three games on short notice. Not to mention that the college presidents are not going to like the three extra games. Depending on the conference, you could have a team playing 17 games.

I just think that starting with 4 is the best option...and it can always be expanded if it makes sense.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22051 posts
Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:23 am to
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last year?
who was No. 5 and 6 in the BCS after the conference championship games?
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