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Posted on 10/17/09 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
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Posted on 10/17/09 at 5:08 pm
What an idiot for not declaring for the draft last year. He could have been a 1st pick. Now he has injury liability issue . Cost himself millions
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/17/09 at 5:18 pm to
Yep, you can always go back to school, but that kind of money won't always be there. Is this family well off or something?
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23483 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 5:30 pm to
I don't know about his family finance , but if my family were rich I would still never miss on a 30 mill opportunity. I've heard Slick stoop convinced him to stay
Posted by Proejo
Dallas
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/17/09 at 5:34 pm to
see a whiney-arse Pete Carrol trying to talk Mark Sanchez out of going to the NFL as example A of why Bradford fricked up. Sanchez is rolling in moola in the Big Apple. Bradford is rolling in the dust in Oklahoma.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/17/09 at 5:40 pm to
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you can always go back to school, but that kind of money won't always be there


Do you remember Willis Macghee's knee injury in the Fiesta Bowl? 4 months later he was a first round pick. Now he would have been a top 5 pick before the injury, but still a first rounder. Frank Gore had multiple knee injuries in college. Was a late round pick, but has played well.

I idea that a couple of injuries will kill Bradford in the draft is not borne out by history. It will depend on the severity. He will no doubt shut it down for the year and maybe have surgery. (Notice how Drew Brees has played post surgery?). The he will work out.

What other QB do you think will be a top 5 pick? McCoy? Tebow? No. Bradford will still be the first QB taken and probably still a top 5 pick. Had he come he may not have gone ahead of Stafford or Sanchez anyway.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/17/09 at 5:43 pm to
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I would still never miss on a 30 mill opportunity. I've


It is extremely unlikely that this injury is a career ender. And if it where, he has insurance that would set him up for life. He is a QB. This is a weak year for QB's. Even if he slid to the mid first round, those guys still make tons of money and its not like he would only have 1 contract.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/17/09 at 5:47 pm to
Noone saying it is a carreer ending, but it's his stocks this season <<<<<<< last season.
Heis losing lots and lots of money
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/17/09 at 5:47 pm to
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What an idiot for not declaring for the draft last year. He could have been a 1st pick.


pretty simple. he didnt want to play for the lions.
cant get mad at a kid for coming back to school and wanting to win a championship.
most scouts said the 1st injury didnt effect his draft stock at all. if this one isnt serious i doubt it will either.
easy to look at the situation now and say he's an idiot.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 10/17/09 at 5:50 pm to
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Had he come he may not have gone ahead of Stafford or Sanchez anyway.


naw he would have went ahead of both of them. and rumor was he didnt like the lions. i think thats the reason sanchez went in early too.
last year w/o bradford in the draft he's the clear number 2. if he would have stayed he might have been the 4th taken.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23483 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 5:51 pm to
He played in one game this season . That's has a lot to do with it
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59042 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 6:02 pm to
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but it's his stocks this season <<<<<<< last season.


Good thing the draft is not next weekend then.

NFL teams will work him out and have him examined by drs. They are not going to say, oh, he was hurt, better pass on him then.

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Heis losing lots and lots of money


link?

You assume he would have been drafted #1, you do not know that. Because he did not come out, he did not work out for teams, they did not interview him or compare him to Stafford/Sanchez. At this point in the 2006 season most people would not have thought JaMarcus Russell would go #1 and Quinn would slide to 24. You really have no idea where he would have gone (first round for sure, but not necessarily top 5).
It is way too early. If he is 100% healed in the spring and the injury/surgery does not weaken his arm strength, it will not really hurt his draft stock. Some teams may shy away, but all it takes is 1.

Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59042 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 6:04 pm to
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naw he would have went ahead of both of them.


link?

Stafford has a big time arm. Bradford really doesn't. You have no idea how the teams would have evaluated him because he did not go, or more importantly you have no idea how the Lions would have evaluated them. (see M. Crabtree situation)
This post was edited on 10/17/09 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23483 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 6:15 pm to
Bottom line , if you are top 3 pick and don't declare , you are an idiot
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
34169 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 6:19 pm to
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naw he would have went ahead of both of them.




link?


really? link reply again. i wasnt trying to say for a fact that would happen. just IMO. he was coming off one of the the best college seasons in CFB history; and was the heisman winner.

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Stafford has a big time arm. Bradford really doesn't


bradford was extremely accurate, stafford wasnt. next.

every player has a knock against em.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59042 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 6:20 pm to
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if you are top 3 pick and don't declare , you are an idiot


that's your choice. Sam Bradford will still be a first round pick. He will still make millions and millions of dollars and if he is good he'll play for a long time.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/17/09 at 6:23 pm to
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Bottom line , if you are top 3 pick and don't declare , you are an idiot


bottom line, people that think that they can make huge decisions like that for people without even knowing them, are idiots.

if he was a top 3 pick last year, another decent season wouldnt change that. he might have wanted to be only the second player ever to win 2 heisman. maybe he wanted another year of experience. again, maybe they didnt want to go to the lions if that was high possibility.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59042 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 6:26 pm to
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he was coming off one of the the best college seasons in CFB history; and was the heisman winner.


So? Tebow had one of the greatest season's ever, won the Heisman and a couple of NC. He would not have been the #1 pick.

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bradford was extremely accurate, stafford wasnt. next.


Stafford completed 61% of his passes in 2008. Bradford 68%. He was accurate enough. Most NFL people value stronger arms more. Accuracy can be taught, arm strength can not.
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every player has a knock against em.


truth. that's what the scouts do

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bottom line, people that think that they can make huge decisions like that for people without even knowing them, are idiots.


exactly
This post was edited on 10/17/09 at 6:33 pm
Posted by GeauxBob
Member since Sep 2008
2904 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 6:28 pm to
Here's the thing that people seem to be forgetting. Bradford can easily come back next year and re-establish his top pick level. Kid is only a RS JR this year. He has one more year of eligibility, and if he just has the surgery on his shoulder and takes the rest of the year off, he'll probably be fine.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34169 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 6:34 pm to
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Tebow had one of the greatest season's ever, won the Heisman and a couple of NC. He would not have been the #1 pick.


tebow doesnt look like another peyton manning. he's a hybrid and everyone agrees he's one of the best college qb's ever but nobody knows what he's going to do in the nfl.
bradford is a throw first pro style qb and scouts loved him. not even close to being a fair comparison.

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Stafford completed 61% of his passes in 2008. Bradford 68%.


so what your saying is that in a pass happy offense as a SOPH bradford was more accurate that a SENIOR stafford. thanks for reminding me.
stafford had a 52% his soph year hust in case you were wondering.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59042 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 6:43 pm to
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o what your saying is that in a pass happy offense as a SOPH bradford was more accurate that a SENIOR stafford.


Bradford was a RED SHIRT SOPH. Stafford a JUNIOR. That makes them the same age. Bradford also played in the Big 12, against a bunch of shitty defenses. Stafford in the SEC against, better defenses. Check out Matt Ryan's college stats. Pro scouts don't care that much.

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radford is a throw first pro style qb and scouts loved him


NFL scouts did not work him out and can not comment on underclassmen until they declare.
This post was edited on 10/17/09 at 6:45 pm
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