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re: Saints had the advantage in OT twice

Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:17 pm to
Exactly.

He and others like him are underselling the absurdity and the finality of the call in question.

Calls are made all game that can go either way - Calls that could be made or calls that could change a game.

This call is ALWAYS made, except for this time. This call almost certainly changed the result of the game.

Nothing about it is normal. It's the most egregious blown call I've ever seen. To shrug it off and compare it to other ticky tack fouls throughout the game is disingenuous and flat out illogical.
Posted by Eternalmajin
Member since Jun 2008
13525 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

But deep down you know the Saints lost because they got outplayed and outcoached


They were so outplayed and outcoached that if any of the officials throw a flag for the most blatant dPI in NFL history they win the game. And this makes sense to you. Keep on trolling sms

And I like how the #1 "advantage" for the Saints in the OP is that the Rams were kicking a game winning FG. What the frick
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140513 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:30 pm to
So what about the Jones Sherman play 2 years ago when he grabbed him on last play and not called?
Giants Niners NFCCG Pass Interference wasn’t called either


Guess that always get called thing isn’t true?

Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Brady gets in the same OT situation and the whole sports world wants to change the OT rules because that’s not fair

But Brees gets the same opportunity and can’t get it done.
Brees/Saints already got OT rule change, and your statement are unrelated.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36466 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:39 pm to
Simple advice: Never argue with an idiot. The people reading won't be able to tell the difference
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:39 pm to
Did the defender deliberately launch himself head first into the WR's head without ever looking for the ball in clear view of two officials and then admit to it after the game?

If no, then it wasn't as blatant.

If it wouldn't have literally ended the fricking game, then it wasn't as consequential.

If you weren't trying so hard to be deliberately obtuse, you would have gotten all this already.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:41 pm to
I wouldn't argue with an idiot. I've skipped over many an opportunity to do that.

He's a good guy, just on the wrong side of history with this particular issue.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:01 pm to


Saints fans want to be victims so bad.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36466 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:02 pm to
Random Ohio State fan on opposing teams message board enjoys trolling for unknown reasons
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:07 pm to
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Eighteen


Saints fan.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213998 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

dumbest take currently on the internet.



WRONG.... The Saints should have been up 21-0 in the 1st quarter.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213998 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:12 pm to
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DisplacedBuckeye



TROLL...............
Posted by DeepBlueSea
Member since Jan 2018
815 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:52 pm to
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I would say the dropped pass was definitely on the Saints.


Okay. I’ll give you that. They left some points on the field, they made some mistakes, and they maybe could have been called for a few more penalties. A different outcome in any one of those events would have had downstream effects, although frankly none that we could confidently quantify at this point.

It naturally follows, then, that the fact that the score was tied late in the 4th quarter was on the Rams, because the Rams had also failed to capitalize on drives with TDs and had to settle for FGs twice.

Allowing the Saints to drive deep into the red zone for the go-ahead score with under 2 minutes left in regulation was also on the Rams.

Getting beat so badly on the 3rd-down coverage that the Rams’ DB publicly admitted that he committed a violent DPI as a last-ditch effort to prevent the Saints from icing the game was also on the Rams, obviously.

However, this freely-acknowledged DPI/PF combo foul was inexplicably ignored by not one but two professional officials standing just feet away with unobstructed views ... and that’s on the Saints? That’s some quality logic there.

Everything that comes after that is irrelevant because if either of these egregious fouls is called, then the game is effectively over. Those downstream effects can be quantified with a VERY high degree of certainty. And yet somehow we have fans on here who have the nerve to gloat and lecture about how no real championship team would ever cede that much control to the refs when it took an absolutely unprecedented gaffe by those very same refs to bail the Rams out of the aforementioned self-inflicted shitshow in the first place? Unbefrickinglievable.

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38140 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 11:08 pm to
The deal is Saints had so many opportunities to close the deal.

After the Rams settled for that lame arse FG, Saints were definitely in the drivers seat.

I don't know how the Saints lost the last 8 minutes of the game.

I think with 8 minutes left ESPN said they had an 85% chance of winning.

But the Saints didn't do shite after that...with all that time.

In a quarter and a half the Saints made 1 FG. A fricking FG...one.

For the supposed greatest offense of all-time. That's not taking you to the SB.

Saints let a scrub team that was struggling and getting blown the frick out, to hang around and steal it at the end because Brees arm is now garbage and the Saints couldn't punch it in.
Posted by DeepBlueSea
Member since Jan 2018
815 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 11:55 pm to
I didn’t say they played like world-beaters. I would’ve liked to see them make fewer mistakes and capitalize on more opportunities. But it’s the fricking NFC Championship between the #1 and #2 seed. At least some of the “poor play” on both sides was actually strong play by the opponents.

That’s all beside the point, though. You can’t invalidate the Saints’ effort by saying it was just adequate when adequate was all it HAD to be. You’re fine with the Rams having the W, but how was their performance any better? There were plenty of times they left points on the field, or didn’t do shite with the ball. Hell, they never even held a LEAD in game time. Yet you seem to think the Saints should either win big or win twice, or else it doesn’t count.

Personally, I’d be fine with picking up where the fouls were committed, but with the penalty enforced. Then we can let it play out and everyone can see for themselves which of those teams actually did enough to win a fair(ish) game. I’m guessing the Rams wouldn’t want to take that chance, though.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
47003 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:09 am to
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The deal is Saints had so many opportunities to close the deal.

Not sure why y'all think this makes the no call okay but whatever
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36466 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:20 am to
Simple minds lead to simple arguments.

I just don’t understand why so many want to blame the Saints, which completely lets this failure from the NFL and their referees off the hook for such a colossal and egregious frick up (which they have still yet to take ownership for)
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
69776 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:57 am to
This game was a war and won before OT.

It was stolen.

Please OP, read this article LINK /


It doesn't matter what advantage you think the Saints had in OT. It should have never went to that. OT in general gave the Rams a chance they had no business having.

Saints earned that win and it was taken away.

Every time I see that play, I can't get over the no call. It's just incredible. He intentionally lit the receiver up as a last ditch effort to take the penalty to prevent a TD.. and no call.

His helmet hits Tommy Lee's.. you can actually hear the contact.

They must make all plays challenge-worthy for the playoffs. Like how baseball expanded challenges for post-season. I believe one ref thinks the ball may have been tipped... but even at that.. it was helmet to helmet. Or maybe that could be his excuse to not call it.. Idk, maybe he was motioning at Payton. Idk.

The ball was never even close to being tipped though. Replay would have shown two penalties on that same play and given the Saints what they earned.. essentially ending the game.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 1:02 am
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13139 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:25 am to
There were bad calls through that game and every other game through the season. shite sucks but that’s what it is
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
29550 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:38 am to
let's not forget the pass interference on the Interception
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