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re: Sagarin's ranking of the 16 BCS Champs
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:13 am to trackfan
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:13 am to trackfan
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, the 1995 Cornhuskers steamrolled their entire regular season schedule, but unlike the Seminoles, when faced an SEC champion in the championship game, they steamrolled them too.
95 Nebraska also beat 4 teams that finished in the final top 10. Their closest game was 14, their 2nd closest game was 23. They beat 4 top 10 teams by AT LEAST 23 points
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:15 am to ballscaster
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And all the Aggies in my town bought USC shirts to show up big bro,
Super gay. Par for the Aggy course.
If A&M was in the title game Texas fans would have been rooting for USC. Just like a lot of Bama fans were rooting for FSU.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:17 am to H-Town Tiger
That 1995 Fla team that Neb destroyed was very good and would've beaten half the BCS champs on that list.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:17 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:They bought USC tshirts.
If A&M was in the title game Texas fans would have been rooting for USC. Just like a lot of Bama fans were rooting for FSU.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:21 am to ballscaster
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They bought USC tshirts.
so says 1 poster on the interweb 8 years after the fact there fore it is a proven fact that ALL Aggies everywhere bought USC T-Shirts right?
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:25 am to H-Town Tiger
It's Aggy. They're the kind of fan base who would leave a conference because of what they felt to be unfair financial advantages that Texas had (nevermind that they themselves had those same advantages), therefore canceling their yearly game with Texas, and then blame Texas for it all. Of course their whiny inferiority complexed fan base would buy USC tshirts when Texas earns it's way to a game that they themselves will never be good enough to reach.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:38 am to ballscaster
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It's Aggy. They're the kind of fan base who would leave a conference because of what they felt to be unfair financial advantages that Texas had (nevermind that they themselves had those same advantages), therefore canceling their yearly game with Texas, and then blame Texas for it all. Of course their whiny inferiority complexed fan base would buy USC tshirts when Texas earns it's way to a game that they themselves will never be good enough to reach.
In other words you hate them,so you believe any negative comment about them, doesn't matter whether it is true or not, its fact to you because it confirms your bias. Rather ironic since weren't you were calling out other posters as not knowing what unbiased meant?
A&M is far better off in the SEC. It is the premiere conference and they will make more revenue long term than they would have in the BigXII. They separate themselves by being the only team from the 2nd largest state. That is really not arguable. When the move was announced, they did say they would still play Texas and it was Texas that said their schedule was full (as if the University of Texas couldn't reschedule or cancel an OOC if they wanted to). They are not the first team to move conferences nor the first to have a long term rivalry game cancelled, but don't let facts get in the way o your bias.
BTW, I know several Aggies, most (but not all) wanted to see USC win that game, none bought USC T-Shirts.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:39 am to H-Town Tiger
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2004 USC way more balanced than 2011 Bama on O and as stout on D.
USC was much better on O and while their D in 2004 was really good, I don't think it was at Bama's level. Now 2008 USC D was equal to Bama.
That's fair...but I still think that 04' team D gets overlooked because of the flash of the offense.
Lawrence Jackson, Mike Patterson, Shaun Cody, Lofa Tatupu...shut down Adrian Peterson.
I don't think 11' Bama runs on that D.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:48 am to trackfan
Au had close games, but also played the toughest schedule of any champ in the toughest sec ever.
And beat everyone.
And beat everyone.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:52 am to Zamoro10
Their D doesn't get enough you're right. 03 and 04 had really good D.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:53 am to TheOcean
I believe 2010 Auburn would beat any of those other teams.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:55 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:Misuse of the word "irony." Whether or not I have an anti-Aggy bias is irrelevant to whether or not I know what bias means.
Rather ironic since weren't you were calling out other posters as not knowing what unbiased meant?
quote:Right. Aggy canceled the game and blamed Texas for it. Not only did they blame Texas for it, but they also expected Texas to go out of its way to reschedule it for them. Texas had Aggy on their schedule. Aggy left that schedule. Aggy asked for a spot in the OOC. Texas had other commitments. Who the hell is Aggy to ask Texas to cancel prior commitments at Aggy's convenience?
When the move was announced, they did say they would still play Texas and it was Texas that said their schedule was full (as if the University of Texas couldn't reschedule or cancel an OOC if they wanted to).
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:56 am to TheOcean
They picked the correct #1 team but 07 LSU should be dead last
Posted on 1/12/14 at 12:06 pm to biglego
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2010 AU was very good but so dependent on one player that more balanced teams are more highly regarded.
its really hard to evaluate 2010 auburn because they were so dependent on cam, and their secondary was awful. the performance against oregon didn't blow anybody away either.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 12:18 pm to ballscaster
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Misuse of the word "irony." Whether or not I have an anti-Aggy bias is irrelevant to whether or not I know what bias means.
You are right, I should have called you a hypocrite
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Right. Aggy canceled the game and blamed Texas for it. Not only did they blame Texas for it, but they also expected Texas to go out of its way to reschedule it for them. Texas had Aggy on their schedule. Aggy left that schedule. Aggy asked for a spot in the OOC. Texas had other commitments. Who the hell is Aggy to ask Texas to cancel prior commitments at Aggy's convenience?
I guess that's one way to look at, but that's some pretty nice spin there. You sound like a teasip.
A&M moved conferences, there are a lot of factors for that move, but it was not done to "cancel" a scheduled game with Texas. To answer "who the hell is aggy?" the are team that had a 100 year old rivalry with Texas and wanted it to continue. Instead UT said they had other "commitments". They could easily cancel some scrub or reschedule with teams like Ole Miss if they wanted, teams, including Texas "cancel prior commitments" all the time. Texas just reneged on its "commitment" to their 2nd best coach in school history, so their refusal to reschedule A&M, which most of their fans and the rest of the state would like to see is just n example of their petty arrogance not some "burden" that A&M was trying to put on them.
A&M does have a massive inferiority complex about UT, but don't kid yourself, Texas is just as obsessed with A&M and UT's pride and arrogance has virtually destroyed what was at one time arguably the best conference in CFB. A&M isn't the only team that left and cast blame on UT. And OU would bolt in a New York minute if the SEC would take them.
This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 1/12/14 at 12:21 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:Sagarin is a unique system in that it is a predictor rather than a rating of cumulative accomplishments. In most computers, LSU's 2001 10-3 team I think approached the top ten, but if I remember correctly, Sagarin had them in the top 5 because his system counts margin of victory, win streak, etc, and it's even possible that "undefeated in regulation" counts for something--not sure.
They picked the correct #1 team but 07 LSU should be dead last
But yes, I'd have 2007 LSU in last.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 12:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:Misuse of the word "hypocrite." Let's just chat and not worry about calling people really benign names.
You are right, I should have called you a hypocrite
quote:The sips are right in this case. Texas never did anything wrong to Texas A&M, ever, but Aggy is sure to not shut up about perceived offenses at least until babies born in 2012 and beyond are in college.
I guess that's one way to look at, but that's some pretty nice spin there. You sound like a teasip.
quote:And did Aggy offer any kind of compensation for this obvious inconvenience? Obviously not. Because Aggy wants to play the victim. The little brother is always a crybaby. If the game was so important to Aggy, either they wouldn't have left the Big 12, or they would have offered UT some incentive to reschedule prior commitments.
To answer "who the hell is aggy?" the are team that had a 100 year old rivalry with Texas and wanted it to continue. Instead UT said they had other "commitments". They could easily cancel some scrub or reschedule with teams like Ole Miss if they wanted, teams, including Texas "cancel prior commitments" all the time.
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A&M does have a massive inferiority complex about UT, but don't kid yourself, Texas is just as obsessed with A&M and UT's pride and arrogance has virtually destroyed what was at one time arguably the best conference in CFB.
Aggy is obsessed with UT.
UT is obsessed with UT.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 6:56 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Au had close games, but also played the toughest schedule of any champ in the toughest sec ever.
Toughest schedule? Based on what criteria? Certainly not the computers. I don't see how you can defend a team that struggled to beat a 4-loss Mississippi State team, a 7-loss Clemson team, a 5-loss South Carolina team and a 7-loss Kentucky team.
This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 1/12/14 at 7:50 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Au had close games, but also played the toughest schedule of any champ in the toughest sec ever. And beat everyone.
I would like to compare that schedule vs lsu 2011. show me!!
Posted on 1/12/14 at 8:14 pm to Gorilla Ball
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I would like to compare that schedule vs lsu 2011. show me!!
Colley Matrix ranks LSU's 2011 schedule 12th and Auburn's 2010 schedule 23rd.
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