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re: Ryan Clark not happy (again) that cardinals hired a white coach

Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:39 pm to
Tell me why not.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:52 pm to
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I would be pissed that they hired a Defensive Coordinator from a defense that wasn’t really that good.


But that’s not it
Posted by TackySweater
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:56 pm to
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Tell me why not.


Because apparently he’s an illiterate idiot that can’t talk in a formal setting.

The fact that you think it’s because he’s black when black coaches get many chances points to you being a huge racist.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:58 pm to
Some guys are just better as corrinaters… but if Ryan’s knows so much, why hasn’t put his name in a bucket for a coaching job.
Posted by TackySweater
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:02 pm to
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but if Ryan’s knows so much, why hasn’t put his name in a bucket for a coaching job.


Who are you taking about?
Posted by TigerPimpNationTrank
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:02 pm to
Because Ryan Clark is a racist moron.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:03 pm to
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Because apparently he’s an illiterate idiot that can’t talk in a formal setting.


Again, players he’s coached seem to think he knows what he’s talking about.

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The fact that you think it’s because he’s black when black coaches get many chances points to you being a huge racist.


Many? 3/32 currently. 2/3 are in their first or second year.

There are as many coaches who didn’t call plays under McVey as there are black HCs

And Todd Bowles probably won’t make it past next year.
Posted by TackySweater
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:04 pm to
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Tell me why not.


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He talks to players a certain way, and some players would take it. I wouldn’t take it. There’s some questions I’m gonna ask. Everyone’s accountable. It’s not because he’s a black coach [that he’s not getting hired]. That’s not the reason.” McCoy continued, saying that “no one hires him because they know what type of coach he really is.”


Quote from a former player on his team that actually has a little bit of backbone. Your turn. Anything to contradict besides race-baiting hypotheticals?
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 9:06 pm
Posted by TackySweater
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:05 pm to
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Again, players he’s coached seem to think he knows what he’s talking about.


See my post above from a player he’s coached.

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And Todd Bowles probably won’t make it past next year.


Because Todd Bowles sucks lol
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:07 pm to
Ryan Clark. If he wants to cry so much why not put your money where your mouth is.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:10 pm to
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Doug Gottlieb: “I talked to three different people in three different front offices last night and I was trying to figure out ‘What’s the deal?’ No one disliked Bienemy, there was nothing in a background check that wouldn’t let you hire him, and there was nothing in regards to somebody you didn’t enjoy the conversation with. Nobody was like ‘I CAN’T WORK WITH THIS GUY.’ But it was interesting because with each different job that I had spoken to somebody about, it felt like the way in which it was described was that it wasn’t that he wasn’t prepared, or that he didn’t have a general plan, it was just that he didn’t have a lot of details to it… I don’t think anyone wants to hire a coach because social media told them to hire a coach, but I don’t think that’s an issue of why he hasn’t gotten a job yet. If people understand the level of preparedness it takes for each of these interviews and the level of detail that most of these places would like to require... Is Dan Campbell a ‘rah-rah’ guy, yeah, but you also have to factor in that the Detroit Lions don’t know who their quarterback is going to be, they had a head coach who thought he knew more than everybody, hadn’t played, and everybody disliked him. So what do you do? You bring in a guy who everybody likes, HAS played, and who just has great positive energy, as was the case with the press conference. Nick Cirianni spent time with Andy Reid too, but the difference was that he was with Frank Reich, who was the one guy who really connected with Carson Wentz, and this was all about Carson Wentz. Every guy I talked to about Bieniemy was like ‘he was good and I can see him becoming a head coach, it’s just for us there wasn’t a lot of detail, and I think it might be because he’s doing too many interviews while still having his other job.’… I would say that’s what’s holding him back from a job. It’s a little bit like Trump for the last six months of his presidency talking about how he has a ‘plan’ for healthcare and he never released it. That’s a little bit like what they felt like with Bieniemy in terms of he had the ‘ideas’ of a plan, but did not seem to have a plan on how to implement that, or in comparison to how the others he was competing against.”


More quotes from someone that talks to teams that have interviewed him. Maybe be a little more prepared ?

Oh wait. We should overlook his lack of preparedness FOR AN INTERVIEW FIRNA MULTI MILLION DOLLAR JOB because he’s black so he should get a pass. Lol.

What a dog shite argument lol
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:12 pm to
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See my post above from a player he’s coached.


See my post from Mahomes
Saying he thinks he should be a HC.
quote:

It’s so past deserves, man. He’s done everything the right way," Mahomes said. "He’s been a part of this offense and this team for so long, holds everyone accountable, is creative in making up plays for us. I don’t know why he hasn’t been hired. But it’s been great for us, because we’ve had one of the best coaches in the league with us for way long past due."


Vs your quote from a RB who was there 1 year and barely played.

Remember Mahomes could have Bienemy fired. Like instantly. He doesn’t need him To get a HC job tj get rid of him or anything like that.

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Because Todd Bowles sucks lol


So do a lot of coaches. But him and a Lovie Smith get hired in situations where they don’t want a long term solution, and they know everyone will understand when they fire them.

This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 9:14 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:15 pm to
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See my post from Mahomes Saying he thinks he should be a HC.


Mahomes is still playing. What’s he gonna say? “Nah he sucks” lol

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Remember Mahomes could have Bienemy fired. Like instantly. He doesn’t need him To get a HC job tj get rid of him or anything like that.


Why would he want to get him fired? He’s not Involved in any of Mahomes success. What’s the point of getting him fired? He has Andy Reid. That’s all he needs for his success.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

SammyTiger
Have the Cardinals hired a black coach before?
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8521 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:20 pm to
He only hates white people to play a character on tv. Hell of a player in college and the NFL, but people like him say BS everyday to stay relevant in today’s world. I doubt he was broke after he retired from the NFL, so maybe people like him do stuff like this because they crave attention. High profile athletes like him have been great at something since they were kids and they want people talking about them, good or bad.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78332 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:28 pm to
I mean You can ask Steve Wills how he feels about the organization.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78332 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:30 pm to
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Mahomes is still playing. What’s he gonna say? “Nah he sucks” lol


He can say literally whatever he wants.

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Why would he want to get him fired? He’s not Involved in any of Mahomes success. What’s the point of getting him fired? He has Andy Reid. That’s all he needs for his success.


You’re literally saying he is lying. He doesn’t need to get the guy fired, but he doesn’t need to promote the guy or lie about him.

If you thinks. Ugh like Mahomes doesn’t want to be surrounded by the best coaches then you don’t understand competitive people.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:33 pm to
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I mean You can ask Steve Wills how he feels about the organization.


So he and Dennis Green. . .

Did the Cards develop racist hiring practices just recently?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78332 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:36 pm to
I honestly don’t even think you read the shite you post:

Because in the same paragraph excuses are made for Dan Campbell.

quote:

Is Dan Campbell a ‘rah-rah’ guy, yeah, but you also have to factor in that the Detroit Lions don’t know who their quarterback is going to be, they had a head coach who thought he knew more than everybody, hadn’t played, and everybody disliked him. So what do you do? You bring in a guy who everybody likes, HAS played, and who just has great positive energy, as was the case with the press conference.


I also think some coaches get hired with barely an interview.

You mean to tell me Dennis Allen presented a detailed plan other than “we’re going to keep doing exactly what we’ve been doing”
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:37 pm to
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He can say literally whatever he wants.


Are you intentionally playing ignorant or just drunk? Anyone in any profession isn’t going to say anything bad in public about someone that he’s in an organization with. You can’t be this ignorant?

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You’re literally saying he is lying. He doesn’t need to get the guy fired, but he doesn’t need to promote the guy or lie about him.


Again. Are you ignorant? He’s not really promoting this guy. He likely knows the guy sucks at something and that’s why he isn’t getting hired. So he’s just making PC comments so he doesn’t get involved in the “WhY haSNt hE beEn HiReD” bullshite.

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Ugh like Mahomes doesn’t want to be surrounded by the best coaches then you don’t understand competitive people.


I guarantee you Mahomes doesn’t need bienemy to be successful. Bienemy isn’t a “great coach” that Mahomes needs to be successful. You think if he had to pick, he’s pickling bienemy over Reid? Lollololll

ONCE AGAIN, you can’t really be this dumb, right?
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 9:48 pm
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