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re: REVERSAL: The Cavs own the Heat's #1 Draft Pick

Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:05 pm to
in 2007-08 the heat won 15 games. then they were ease 1st round exits until bron came.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:05 pm to
Cavs are gonna be absolutely loaded till the foreseeable future
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:08 pm to
I think Lebron realized that Dwayne Wade is old. Chris Bosh is getting old.

And he's starting to break down and cant carry a team a million miles for the next four years.

SA out athleted them. Danny Green, Kawhi Leonard, Patty Mills beat the Heat up.

He has young legs surrounding him.

Tristan Thompson, Irving, Wiggins, will be able to run all day.

If they get Love, the passing brain on that team will be ridiculous. Bron set up Bosh for 3s. And he's never had anyone near Kevin Love's shooting around him. Let alone a PG the quality of Kyrie.


This team is going to be NASTY.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:11 pm to
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the current talks surround former top pick Anthony Bennett, and former top 5 pick Dion Waiters. plus multiple 1sts.




naw

ESPN is reporting that the Cavaliers have opened up trade talks with the Timberwolves with a deal involving Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett a pick, and Andrew Wiggins.
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:12 pm to
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I think Lebron realized that Dwayne Wade is old. Chris Bosh is getting old.

And he's starting to break down and cant carry a team a million miles for the next four years.

SA out athleted them. Danny Green, Kawhi Leonard, Patty Mills beat the Heat up.

He has young legs surrounding him.

Tristan Thompson, Irving, Wiggins, will be able to run all day.

If they get Love, the passing brain on that team will be ridiculous. Bron set up Bosh for 3s. And he's never had anyone near Kevin Love's shooting around him. Let alone a PG the quality of Kyrie.


This team is going to be NASTY.


That team is going to track meet people.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:13 pm to
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ESPN is reporting that the Cavaliers have opened up trade talks with the Timberwolves with a deal involving Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett a pick, and Andrew Wiggins.



Nope.

quote:

The Cavaliers have opened talks by offering guard Dion Waiters, forward Anthony Bennett and a first-round pick to the Timberwolves in exchange for Love, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard.


LINK
Posted by petar
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:15 pm to
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And he's never had anyone near Kevin Love's shooting around him


Thats not true. Mike Miller, ray Allen, Shane Battier, James Jones.. Maybe star player who can shoot but lebron had tons of shooters around him in MIA

but i agree with everything else. Cleveland should be fun to watch.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:15 pm to
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That team is going to track meet people.



AND they have a coach that likes to run.


This could be the Bermuda Triangle of NBA talent folks.

Get your tickets early.

The Cavs are shooting for 73 wins
Posted by petar
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:16 pm to
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The Cavs are shooting for 73 wins


alright lets not get too excited yet. This team will have some growing pains...

all new pieces. From Coach to half the team. Really inexperienced team as well.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:18 pm to
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The Cavs own the Heat's #1 Draft Pick




No one has any idea where that pick is going to be by the time it ends up in Cleveland's hands.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:18 pm to
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They aren't keeping wiggins.


I thought that at first. But Cleveland has the leverage.

Love's already letting it leak that he's "intrigued" about Cleveland. It may come down to a point that Minnesota will take what they can get, because otherwise Love may just sign there next offseason, and the T'Wolves get nothing in that scenario.

Teams are going to be reluctant to trade for Love if he doesn't sign long term, which he's reportedly ready to do for Cleveland.
This post was edited on 7/11/14 at 2:19 pm
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:18 pm to
Min would be crazy to take anything less than Wiggins. Cle would be crazy to not deal Wiggins if it means they get Love long term.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:19 pm to
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The Cavaliers have opened talks by offering guard Dion Waiters, forward Anthony Bennett and a first-round pick to the Timberwolves in exchange for Love, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard.



if the Wolves don't get Wiggins then they need to pack up and go home.


I understand you are hopeful that LBJ's NBA will push for it to happen...but I dont see it.


Broussard is a fricking tard too.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:19 pm to
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alright lets not get too excited yet. This team will have some growing pains...

all new pieces. From Coach to half the team. Really inexperienced team as well.


They are young, but they will have a huge mix of experience too.

Hell, even Kyrie is a pretty experienced guy at this point. Add in LBJ, Kevin Love, Varejao, Ray Allen, Mike Miller, to guys like Wiggins (if the Cavs get what they are asking) and they would be primed to go crazy in the East.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:20 pm to
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Broussard is a fricking racist tard too.


+1
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:20 pm to
Do people forget the Melo/Den drama? Den still go a ton and Melo basically said he only wanted to sign long term with NY. Min could do better than Waiters and Bennet from other teams that just want to "rent" Love.
Posted by petar
Miami
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:22 pm to
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they will have a huge mix of experience too

my real main point that ended up getting lost is that Miami went through growing pains, as did Boston when they got thier big three.

But next year i could see big things.


They are going to go crazy in the east either way. Who is going to stop them? Pacers? Wizards? no one else is even close in my opinion
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:29 pm to
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They are going to go crazy in the east either way. Who is going to stop them? Pacers? Wizards? no one else is even close in my opinion


They aren't getting past the Pacers next year as currently constructed IMO.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:30 pm to
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They aren't getting past the Pacers next year as currently constructed IMO.



The pacers got worse when they let Stevenson go. The Cavs got LBJ and Wiggins at the minimum.

It's at least a wash, but with Kyrie they easily have the better roster IMO
Posted by petar
Miami
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:34 pm to
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They aren't getting past the Pacers next year as currently constructed IMO.


Pacers struggle against top PG's. Lebron is lebron.
I think the cleveland bigs with love will do better aginst the pacers than Miami's did last year.
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