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re: Re-Drafting the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:15 pm to teke184
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:15 pm to teke184
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You are still supposed to be taking long term potential into the situation.
yeah, so take everything into account and how are you coming up burrow, still?
age, performance, injuries and tell me one legitimate reason why burrow should be taken ahead of herbert.
this is annoying for me because i like burrow quite a bit and he could very well end up better. but if we are re-drafting based on what we know right now, it'd be a complete guess with no backing other than he went to lsu and was originally picked higher
This post was edited on 1/4/21 at 7:16 pm
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Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:18 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
I don’t knock Burrow for getting hurt because he played for the goddamn Bengals.
Put Burrow on the Chargers and Hebert on the Bengals and we are likely having this discussion in reverse.
Burrow getting hurt because he is brittle is one thing.
Getting destroyed because he has a bunch of fricking matadors blocking for him is another.
Put Burrow on the Chargers and Hebert on the Bengals and we are likely having this discussion in reverse.
Burrow getting hurt because he is brittle is one thing.
Getting destroyed because he has a bunch of fricking matadors blocking for him is another.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:19 pm to FlappingPierre
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mean if we are being completely honest. Herbert is younger and had best rookie qb season ever?? So he would go number 1
All that means is the Bungles destroy Herbert's knee and Burrow has a record setting year for the Name Redacteds.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:19 pm to Commandeaux
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Justin Hebert #2 to WFT
Chase Young falls to #3 to Detroit.
Chase Young has been a monster and appears to be primed to be a perennial all-pro caliber player. I don't think Washington wishes they could have a do-over, regardless of what is going on at the QB position over there.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:19 pm to teke184
none of that matters! we are re-drafting. he is actually hurt! it's not his fault, god no, but it's real
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:21 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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is younger,
he's 15 months younger than Burrow. I don't think that age gap is really all that relevant when you're drafting a QB
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:22 pm to lsufball19
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he's 15 months younger than Burrow. I don't think that age gap is really all that relevant when you're drafting a QB
i don't really disagree but do you see how everything is in herbert's favor and yet all you guys say is that none of it matters?
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:23 pm to Commandeaux
TN has gotten more from practice squad guys & pudgy Best Buy kickers than they’ve got from Wilson.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:25 pm to Commandeaux
I’d take Jeudy over every WR in the OP besides Jefferson.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:26 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
So, you expect that “redrafting” Hebert over Burrow prevents the Bengals from getting their first overall pick crippled due to shite blocking?
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:26 pm to Commandeaux
Justin Jefferson to bengals
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:26 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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i don't really disagree but do you see how everything is in herbert's favor and yet all you guys say is that none of it matters?
No, I don't think a freak injury that in all likelihood may have cost a non-playoff team his services for a handful of games in year 1 is enough reason to completely redo your draft if you're thinking long-term with your #1 pick. I don't think there was anything about Burrow's play that made the Bengals think they would have been better off with Herbert. And their ages, IMO, is irrelevant for all intents and purposes. When you're doing a hypothetical re-draft, I take that as would the teams still draft the same players, knowing what they know now, if they could do it over again. As in, do the Bengals think drafting Herbert instead would have put them in a better spot moving forward. I don't think the Bengals would. Their rookie QB was going to take a beating regardless of who it was. (and fwiw, for the vast majority of rookies, a one year sample size isn't big enough to say whether or not there should be regrets)
This post was edited on 1/4/21 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:28 pm to Commandeaux
Xavier McKinney to the cowboys
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:29 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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none of that matters! we are re-drafting. he is actually hurt! it's not his fault, god no, but it's real
Point is that whatever QB the Bengals drafted would have ended up hurt, so drafting Tua or Herbert doesn't help the Bengals.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:31 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Neither did Aiyuk and he still played better. Better PFF grade be 5-7 points.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:32 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Can we stop with the age thing? Burrow just turned 24 in December, Herbert turns 23 in March
Burrow isn’t Brandon Weeden or Chris Weinke
Burrow isn’t Brandon Weeden or Chris Weinke
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:34 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Why even make the injury a part of it . Just base it off what we saw. Without the injury ,no ,Cincinnati wouldnt want someone else and neither would la chargers
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:36 pm to DBG
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Burrow isn’t Brandon Weeden or Chris Weinke
and Herbert isn't Lamar Jackson who was 20 years old his rookie season. Herbert was a 22 year old 4 year player when he was drafted. Burrow was a 23 year old 5 year player. I don't think that redshirt year matters when you're drafting what you hope to be your QB for the next 10-15 years. This isn't like drafting a RB with a short shelf-life where age may matter.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:48 pm to lsufball19
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Chase Young has been a monster and appears to be primed to be a perennial all-pro caliber player. I don't think Washington wishes they could have a do-over, regardless of what is going on at the QB position over there.
Good thing you aren’t a GM. You take a franchise QB every single time over a defensive player unless it’s LT.
I’d take Burrow or Herbert over Young in a heartbeat.
This post was edited on 1/4/21 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:04 pm to UnluckyTiger
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I’d take Burrow or Herbert over Young in a heartbeat.
Looking at the biggest D-line names over the past few drafts (the Bosa boys and Chase Young) their teams were 7-9, 6-10, and 7-9 respectively.
Strong QB play is more important than a strong DL player. Notice all the talk about the Browns getting to the playoffs; they've had Myles Garrett playing at a good level for YEARS but only had a good year from Baker Mayfield THIS year.
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