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re: Rank the national champions of the 1970s
Posted on 10/14/20 at 7:27 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 10/14/20 at 7:27 pm to RollTide1987
1973 Bama team was the worst. Lost to Norte Dame
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 10:09 pm to VADawg
Alabama, Auburn, Georgia were all top 10 that year.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 10:24 pm to RollTide1987
72 USC’s in a league of its own next up 79 Bama, then early 70s Nebraska teams (you beat the 71 OU squad, arguably the best to never win it, you are legendary)
Posted on 10/14/20 at 10:28 pm to ThePTExperience1969
I will just say it was a different time back then. Conference titles and Sugar/Rose/Orange Bowl wins mattered more than anything. National Championships were just icing on the cake. It was actually much better than the National Championship or bust/everybody else sucks environment we live in today.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 4:31 am to SoDakHawk
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I will just say it was a different time back then. Conference titles and Sugar/Rose/Orange Bowl wins mattered more than anything. National Championships were just icing on the cake. It was actually much better than the National Championship or bust/everybody else sucks environment we live in today.
I echo this. Ergo the MNC. You couldn't control the whim of the voters...you could just win tangible trophies on the field.
Even today, people say...yeah we have a playoff! Well who gets in? By vote of course...by a Star Chamber behind closed doors.
It's still the MNC to me. Because you can only control what you do on the field...and as has been seen throughout history, you can be perfect from a P5 and still not get the nod.
Winning your Conference was everything and then going to one of the Top 5 bowls. If you didn't win your Conference you were never ever ever remotely in the conversation for the National Championship. The regular season was the playoff and you failed.
But that all changed. 15 years before and 2011 LSU would be the undisputed National Champs...because they would've gone to the Sugar and beat Oklahoma State.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 5:20 am to SoDakHawk
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It was actually much better than the National Championship or bust/everybody else sucks environment we live in today.
New Years Day was electric. You might have 1 versus 4
6. 2 versus 5. 3 versus 4. In several hours you could see the best teams go at it. More football on tv that day than any other day.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 5:51 am to makersmark1
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New Years Day was electric. You might have 1 versus 4
6. 2 versus 5. 3 versus 4. In several hours you could see the best teams go at it. More football on tv that day than any other day.
Dominos could fall and they did sometimes.
#4 going into the bowls could be crowned National Champion. See 1983 Miami. I think Alabama went from #4 heading into the bowls to #1 after the bowls one year.
There was no BCS, no...these are the only two teams in consideration for the National Title before the bowls even start! What is that about? Don't we need to wait until after the bowls to see what team is really the best against quality opposition and everyone else has played and either won or been exposed for a weak schedule?
There was no 4-team playoff, nobody else can impress.
It was a free for all. You had a chance with the right opponent and if you impressed and teams ahead of you lost, you had a chance to win the Natty on New Years Day.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 5:54 am
Posted on 10/15/20 at 6:26 am to makersmark1
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Alabama, Auburn, Georgia were all top 10 that year.
Auburn was ranked in the top 10 all season, maybe even top 5, but back to back losses to Alabama and then OU in the Sugar Bowl dropped them out of the top 10 in the final poll.
Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, LSU, and Tennessee all were ranked in the top 10 at some point in 1971. Those five teams, plus Ole Miss finished ranked in the top 15.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 6:27 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
In 1965, Bama won bowl versus Nebraska, and everything had broken earlier such that they moved up.
In 1977, Notre Dame jumped from 5 to 1 by beating #1 Texas while Bama pounded a two loss Ohio State.
In 1983, 1 Nebraska Lost to 5 Miami, 2 Texas lost to UGA, 3 auburn beat Michigan. Even though AU had beaten Florida and Miami had lost to Florida 28-3, pollsters moved Miami up to 1.
In 1977, Notre Dame jumped from 5 to 1 by beating #1 Texas while Bama pounded a two loss Ohio State.
In 1983, 1 Nebraska Lost to 5 Miami, 2 Texas lost to UGA, 3 auburn beat Michigan. Even though AU had beaten Florida and Miami had lost to Florida 28-3, pollsters moved Miami up to 1.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 6:38 am to makersmark1
Not saying it wasn't perfect but that was the luck of the draw...your opponent mattered...and 1983 Nebraska was seen as unbeatable and Miami drew them in the Orange Bowl while Auburn got #8 Michigan and beat them in a lame game 9-7.
The voters were sometimes wrong but what was nice is they valued the bowl games as the final litmus test and put most of their weight into what you did last as a backlash to when Alabama infamously "won" the National Title at the end of the regular season by vote and then lost to undefeated Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl.
After that, the CFB world told the Coaches, frick that noise...and stop voting like cronies and for your buddies just because you want a job with Bear...and the AP awarded ND the Natty.
So after the bowls, Alabama finished #4 in the country in the AP but still #1 in the country in the Coaches because they never voted after the bowls.
It's no surprise the Coaches Poll was used for the BCS...as the sole decider, it was always an old boys club...they didn't want independent sportswriters mucking it up after the bowl games.
The voters were sometimes wrong but what was nice is they valued the bowl games as the final litmus test and put most of their weight into what you did last as a backlash to when Alabama infamously "won" the National Title at the end of the regular season by vote and then lost to undefeated Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl.
After that, the CFB world told the Coaches, frick that noise...and stop voting like cronies and for your buddies just because you want a job with Bear...and the AP awarded ND the Natty.
So after the bowls, Alabama finished #4 in the country in the AP but still #1 in the country in the Coaches because they never voted after the bowls.
It's no surprise the Coaches Poll was used for the BCS...as the sole decider, it was always an old boys club...they didn't want independent sportswriters mucking it up after the bowl games.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 6:42 am
Posted on 10/15/20 at 9:06 am to RollTide1987
quote:Still the only team in CFB history to face three consecutive teams that finished the year with double digit losses:
1979: Alabama
quote:And one of them was 1-AA.
9/29 @ Vanderbilt (1-10)
10/6 vs. Wichita State (1-10)
10/13 @ Florida (0-10-1)
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